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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    That and they end of the bullyboy mindset.

    Too many times I've seen situations escalate because the cop was simply being a dick. Talking to people who are being cooperative like the cop caught em dandling a five year old.

    This attitude is taught. Dominance takes priority. Not just controlling the situation but what can only be described as bullying.

    Im not thrilled with the end of officer discretion. But I'm less thrilled with commonplace misbehavior. Make EVERYBODY be civil, not just the civilian.
    Except the civilians are under no obligation to be either civil or to tell the truth. In fact, you can pretty much count on folks to lie when stopped. That wears on you after a while.

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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except the civilians are under no obligation to be either civil or to tell the truth. In fact, you can pretty much count on folks to lie when stopped. That wears on you after a while.
    "Not being civil" is all it takes to get a drubbing in my experience. Even when the cop comes in waving his dick around.

    And the video will certainly reflect BOTH parties' behavior. I've seen cops lie their asses off more than once. So that goes both ways too.
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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once the criminals and activists realize how many more charges they will face now that police have cameras, I imagine the furor for cameras on all police will die down significantly. How many time do police give folks a break? That'll be on camera now too. There will be more pressure to fine em all.
    That's the "downside". How many of us walked away from felonies as a kid due to officer discretion?

    I would prefer a proactive approach from police departments, but the bullyboy demeanor is actually taught now, and I don't know of anyone who ever received satisfaction of any kind from filing a complaint against a misbehaving officer.

    IMO, this is at the heart of public distrust of the police. Every person who witnesses police misbehavior being completely ignored by the department will likely carry that EARNED distrust for life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The protests weren't about one the one incident, they were about an ongoing pattern. Accountability and truth are good for everyone involved, except criminals and bad cops. They will help exonerate the good cops wrongly accused.
    Hi Hard Truth!
    How do you know that the above (bolded) is the case?

    I believe that many protesters were motivated by what you said. However, that motivation, noble as it is, was not the motivation of all.
    Some were motivated by THIS specific incident. Some were motivated because everyone else was doing it. (mob mentality)
    Some were motivated because they wanted any chance to get back at "whitey".
    Some were motivated by the thought of a free television set for Christmas.

    I am sure that I could come up with other possible motivations as well.

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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Hi Clownboy!
    I understand what you are saying. However, I don't believe there will be any complaints or requests for viewing if the police give folks a break. No disagreement there-the LEO wanted leniency and so did the citizen.
    Now...if the LEO is in the habit of letting law-breakers go and somebody screamed "foul" then, maybe the footage will be viewed.
    I promise you that ambitious prosecutors will be checking those videos for potential belt notches. That discretion will become a thing of the past.
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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    And then there's the federal access to those video databases. It's like adding several hundred thousand walking drones.

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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The cost doesn't stop there and it's continuous. You have to have a system for collection of feed and offsite, secure storage, AND the techs who can handle it all. Including reviewing officers and extra paid time to review the footage for officers. This means more personnel, more equipment to maintain, more training to do. It's not one and done, but a continuing cost, and the camera's themselves are the least costly of what is necessary.
    Sounds like typical SNAFU for government projects. Ongoing switch out of thumb drives by the week; kept for seven years; checked (w/o review) for integrity; no reviews of recordings unless a complaint is filed. False reports result in criminal prosecution and fines into the revenue stream for their ongoing management. It doesn't HAVE to be a whore's nightmare...

    Basically, though, I do agree with you. I just wouldn't want that to get in the way of a good thing.
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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    I'm sure Officer Wilson wishes he had a camera in his patrol car. It would have saved him(and Ferguson) a ton of pain and I wouldn't have to see Al Sharpton's ugly mug on tv every 5 minutes. The greatest problem the black community has starts with their LEADERSHIP. MLK was their last RATIONAL leader and he's been gone for decades. Nothing will change until they wake up and realize that.

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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I'm sure Officer Wilson wishes he had a camera in his patrol car. It would have saved him(and Ferguson) a ton of pain and I wouldn't have to see Al Sharpton's ugly mug on tv every 5 minutes. The greatest problem the black community has starts with their LEADERSHIP. MLK was their last RATIONAL leader and he's been gone for decades. Nothing will change until they wake up and realize that.
    You are assuming a video of what happened would have made any difference.

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    Re: Obama Wants To Help Buy 50,000 Body Cameras For The Nation's 630,000 Police Offic

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are assuming a video of what happened would have made any difference.
    if there was a video that backed up the Officer's story from day 1? ..... I absolutely think that would have made a difference, and diffused the situation before it ever got to the boiling point. no doubt

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