Libertie76
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1.)its not a yes no question without knowing if the law in your area covers that under hate crime and if theres evidence to support it :shrug:
my answer stands
2.)how did i know you would dodge the question lol
thats a long post that says nothing to what i asked
the question is in fact valid as court cases, law and facts already prove
they are ALL examples of crimes that take into account thoughts, motivation, scale and reasoning . . . . do you agree with that or not?
you claim was thought and motivation should be taken into account and im asking if you truly feel that way or just in the case of hate crimes
this is the way the law already factually works, thats not up for debate, so do you agree with it or not?
You've exceeded yourself in terms of twisting arguments. How heinous the crime is based on motivation definitely should impact the punishment, as I stated motivation was an over generalization I made, and stipulated with my answer that political motivation should not be an extra crime of itself.
It is a federal law, hate crimes. It is not based on area or region. The definition of a hate crime is "noun
a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence."
Your answer stands because you refuse to answer the question that's actually very limited of you to dodge the question with "I don't know" according to the definition of hate crimes, and the statues of the federal hate crime laws political prejudice falls under the statements of the law. A communist attacking a nazi because he is a nazi is the exact same Thing as a nazi attacking a communist because he's a communist.
The difference is the courts decide whether to charge someone according to the specific law. Such as, the killing of Michael brown makes people believe the charging of the officer with hate crime laws needs to be fulfilled or else the black community of ferguson doesn't feel represented, effectively causing more racial division when he is not indicted. Or, the Bosnian community of St. Louis feels the charging of the teenagers who murdered zemir begic with hate crime laws or else they will feel misrepresented. This is how hate crime laws create more division to suggest its subjective opinion is a ridiculous way to scape goat thought crimes. Jim Crow laws didn't divide people, subjective opinion did, really?
Now, as I said with my answer, motivation should play in to the role of how heinous a crime is while committed, however motivation should not be a crime in of itself. You don't understand hate crime laws. Hate crime laws are additional charges. I murder you is murder, I murder you because your a different religion is a murder and a hate crime.