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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya TB Yeah it didn't say.....nor about what the Fed has already doled out.


    On a call with reporters, administration officials would not say whether the president supports or opposes bipartisan efforts in Congress to ban local police departments from receiving recycled armored vehicles from the war in Afghanistan and certain kinds of assault rifles.

    The president’s planned executive action also does not appear to immediately affect the 460,000 weapons and other controlled pieces of military equipment that have already been doled out from the Pentagon to local law enforcement agencies, including more than 5,000 Humvees and 92,000 guns.....snip~
    In other words he's voting "present"?
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    I think this is a really good executive order.
    I have no problem with the EO where it comes to requiring more training to receive surplus equipment. But do not believe EOs should ever require funding that congress hasn't provided for in budget.

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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Coming soon to a Police Dept near you. Police Officers to wear Body Cameras. BO is doling out 75 mil for the new equipment. What say ye?


    President Barack Obama is expected to sign an executive order to encourage more oversight of federal programs that dole out military gear to local police departments, senior administration officials said Monday. The executive order will direct agencies that distribute military-style equipment to local police to require training for cops that receive the gear. The president will also require officials to create a central database to track the supplies, as a significant number of weapons and vehicles previously allocated have gone missing.

    Obama does plan to dole out one new piece of equipment to police departments that will likely please civil liberterians: The White House will allocate $75 million dollars over three years to provide police departments with up to 50,000 body-worn cameras for their officers.....snip~

    President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops
    I think it a stupid waste of funds.

    On the other hand, I'd rather all able-bodied prisoners be mandated to wear iron leggings linked to a long chain while doing worthwhile physical labor.

    That's called, paying one's debt to society.
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Coming soon to a Police Dept near you. Police Officers to wear Body Cameras. BO is doling out 75 mil for the new equipment. What say ye?


    President Barack Obama is expected to sign an executive order to encourage more oversight of federal programs that dole out military gear to local police departments, senior administration officials said Monday. The executive order will direct agencies that distribute military-style equipment to local police to require training for cops that receive the gear. The president will also require officials to create a central database to track the supplies, as a significant number of weapons and vehicles previously allocated have gone missing.

    Obama does plan to dole out one new piece of equipment to police departments that will likely please civil liberterians: The White House will allocate $75 million dollars over three years to provide police departments with up to 50,000 body-worn cameras for their officers.....snip~

    President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops
    I think that ALL police should be required to wear body cameras - having such might have prevented what's happened in Ferguson. That, and at least he's looking for oversight of that military gear...because before, there wasn't any oversight at all.
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Did Obama get around to deciding how schools should set up Michael Brown memorials today?
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I think that ALL police should be required to wear body cameras - having such might have prevented what's happened in Ferguson. That, and at least he's looking for oversight of that military gear...because before, there wasn't any oversight at all.
    I agree that they should wear cameras but, wouldn't that be the first thing a criminal would rip off their uniform?
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Coming soon to a Police Dept near you. Police Officers to wear Body Cameras. BO is doling out 75 mil for the new equipment. What say ye?


    President Barack Obama is expected to sign an executive order to encourage more oversight of federal programs that dole out military gear to local police departments, senior administration officials said Monday. The executive order will direct agencies that distribute military-style equipment to local police to require training for cops that receive the gear. The president will also require officials to create a central database to track the supplies, as a significant number of weapons and vehicles previously allocated have gone missing.

    Obama does plan to dole out one new piece of equipment to police departments that will likely please civil liberterians: The White House will allocate $75 million dollars over three years to provide police departments with up to 50,000 body-worn cameras for their officers.....snip~

    President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops


    Gone missing.....

    That's the scariest thing I've heard in a long time. Just who has their hands on military grade hardware and for what reason.

    It sometimes happens, but I have to agree with Obama on this one, proving that indeed even a broken clock is right twice a day and an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters will eventually write Hamlet.
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    I think this is a really good executive order.
    Does the President have the right to approve the spending of money without Congress? I'm asking because I don't think he does.
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm positive though that vest camera's will result in Police officers being held accountable for their actions.
    I really don't know about that as there have been reports of cops turning off their body cams (Officer involved in Monday shooting had body cam turned off - FOX 8 WVUE New Orleans News, Weather, Sports) in addition to this, there have also been beatings caught on camera and nothing occurred. IIRC, Kelly Thomas' beating was filmed and the two cops who did it are walking around free.
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    Re: President Obama to order more training, oversight for military gear to cops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Does the President have the right to approve the spending of money without Congress? I'm asking because I don't think he does.
    Via Executive Order on Wikipedia:

    There is no constitutional provision nor statute that explicitly permits executive orders. The term "executive power" Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution, refers to the title of President as the executive. He is instructed therein by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 5, else he faces impeachment. Most executive orders use these Constitutional reasonings as the authorization allowing for their issuance to be justified as part of the President's sworn duties,[2] the intent being to help direct officers of the U.S. Executive carry out their delegated duties as well as the normal operations of the federal government: the consequence of failing to comply possibly being the removal from office.[3]
    I know wikipedia isn't a great source, but it looks like it really depends on the interpretation of various clauses. So considering that the police are part of the executive branch, he has full authority to do what he just did assuming this source is accurate.
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