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    The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest - The Daily Fix - WSJ

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    Professional sports are rarely a province for civil unrest. Take it from a young Michael Jordan, upon being asked to donate to a political campaign, apocryphally responding with “Republicans buy sneakers, too.” But there’s certainly opportunity to players to speak out, and on Sunday, several players for the St. Louis Rams made their voices heard.

    As they came out of the tunnel during introductions before their game against the Oakland Raiders, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, Chris Givens, Stedman Bailey, and Kenny Britt raised their hands in reference to the “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” protest—a sign that became ubiquitous during the recent protests in Ferguson, Mo., over the shooting death of black teenager Michael Brown by white police officer Darren Wilson. Following the subsequent investigation, a grand jury decided not to indict Wilson. Protesters across the country have voiced their displeasure with the decision—a number of them were stationed outside the Edward James Dome, where the Rams play. The gesture didn’t go unnoticed, even as the players, all of whom are black, tried to be diplomatic. Britt was quoted as saying, “Taking sides? We wanted to show that we were there for a cause that something positive comes out of it.”

    As far as dialogue between opposing sides, much of which has exposed fractious fault lines within attitudes toward race and state, this passes for downright tranquil. And yet, the players were immediately criticized by the St. Louis Police Officers Association, which released a fiery statement criticizing the players and demanding an appropriate response—reprimand from the team, or the league


    I don't blame the St. Louis PD. WTF? It was proven that Brown was not shot with his hands up in surrender contrary to what his little sidekick in the convenience store robbery claimed - and which people have clung on to as if it were true.

    I'll bet these guys would call the St. Louis PD in a second if there big fancy houses were being robbed.

    The PD's statement is here, and it is indeed "fiery"

    SLPOA condemns Rams display

    Protest is great. Support your cause. I'd love to see the Rams support some causes that are important to me and lots of others too, like animal abuse and elder abuse. But if they did do it where the protest could be seen, I would hope they would be honest about what happened and not feed into the rhetoric and propaganda as they did on Sunday.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Wonder what those players position is on domestic violence and child abuse. I don't recall them making any jester about those incidents that involve NFL players.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest - The Daily Fix - WSJ

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    Professional sports are rarely a province for civil unrest. Take it from a young Michael Jordan, upon being asked to donate to a political campaign, apocryphally responding with “Republicans buy sneakers, too.” But there’s certainly opportunity to players to speak out, and on Sunday, several players for the St. Louis Rams made their voices heard.

    As they came out of the tunnel during introductions before their game against the Oakland Raiders, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, Chris Givens, Stedman Bailey, and Kenny Britt raised their hands in reference to the “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” protest—a sign that became ubiquitous during the recent protests in Ferguson, Mo., over the shooting death of black teenager Michael Brown by white police officer Darren Wilson. Following the subsequent investigation, a grand jury decided not to indict Wilson. Protesters across the country have voiced their displeasure with the decision—a number of them were stationed outside the Edward James Dome, where the Rams play. The gesture didn’t go unnoticed, even as the players, all of whom are black, tried to be diplomatic. Britt was quoted as saying, “Taking sides? We wanted to show that we were there for a cause that something positive comes out of it.”

    As far as dialogue between opposing sides, much of which has exposed fractious fault lines within attitudes toward race and state, this passes for downright tranquil. And yet, the players were immediately criticized by the St. Louis Police Officers Association, which released a fiery statement criticizing the players and demanding an appropriate response—reprimand from the team, or the league


    I don't blame the St. Louis PD. WTF? It was proven that Brown was not shot with his hands up in surrender contrary to what his little sidekick in the convenience store robbery claimed - and which people have clung on to as if it were true.

    I'll bet these guys would call the St. Louis PD in a second if there big fancy houses were being robbed.

    The PD's statement is here, and it is indeed "fiery"

    SLPOA condemns Rams display

    Protest is great. Support your cause. I'd love to see the Rams support some causes that are important to me and lots of others too, like animal abuse and elder abuse. But if they did do it where the protest could be seen, I would hope they would be honest about what happened and not feed into the rhetoric and propaganda as they did on Sunday.
    They supported what they thought was right. Nobody got hurt (except for the Raiders, wow...). The Miami Heat came out for warmups wearing hoodies during the Trayvon Martin kerfuffle. After Sterling's comments, the Clippers made a show of warming up without anything that said "Clippers" on it. You could even say it's something of a political statement that Daniel Snyder's NFL team continues to wear gear that says "Redskins."

    The important thing is that nobody got hurt. You may not agree, but they said their piece and nobody got hurt as a result. You don't have a right to have your political views catered to.


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They supported what they thought was right. Nobody got hurt (except for the Raiders, wow...). The Miami Heat came out for warmups wearing hoodies during the Trayvon Martin kerfuffle. After Sterling's comments, the Clippers made a show of warming up without anything that said "Clippers" on it. You could even say it's something of a political statement that Daniel Snyder's NFL team continues to wear gear that says "Redskins."

    The important thing is that nobody got hurt. You may not agree, but they said their piece and nobody got hurt as a result. You don't have a right to have your political views catered to.
    The Michael Brown shooting and the response to it was political?
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    What is this "hands up" ****? mikey brown didn't have his hands up.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They supported what they thought was right. Nobody got hurt (except for the Raiders, wow...). The Miami Heat came out for warmups wearing hoodies during the Trayvon Martin kerfuffle. After Sterling's comments, the Clippers made a show of warming up without anything that said "Clippers" on it. You could even say it's something of a political statement that Daniel Snyder's NFL team continues to wear gear that says "Redskins."

    The important thing is that nobody got hurt. You may not agree, but they said their piece and nobody got hurt as a result. You don't have a right to have your political views catered to.
    In you opinion would it be proper for you or your coworkers to do something similar at your work on company time?

    If the same NFL players joined in on a protest on their own time, that is their business. Knowing they are on TV , its a bit political on their part

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Wonder what those players position is on domestic violence and child abuse. I don't recall them making any jester about those incidents that involve NFL players.
    Many NFL players have been tweeting their support of Ray Rice since the other day. Maybe they think it's okay to smack your fiancée silly.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    As a general gesture, and not specific to Brown, it's a fair statement. I'm not sure it's the place for it, unless there was team approval.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    As a general gesture, and not specific to Brown, it's a fair statement. I'm not sure it's the place for it, unless there was team approval.

    Incorrect, initial witness stated mikey had his hands up and said "don't shoot", that's where it came from. That's what all these protesters are rallying behind in the lack of indictment protests and riots.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Incorrect, initial witness stated mikey had his hands up and said "don't shoot", that's where it came from. That's what all these protesters are rallying behind in the lack of indictment protests and riots.
    As a statement regarding the treatment of blacks in the justice system, from police to attorneys to juries to judges, it's true and noteworthy. Sure, all evidence points to it being BS in the case of Brown, but that does not invalidate the general political statement.

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