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The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

Erod said:
You could add the SAT scores of those idiots together and still not get into your local county community college.

I'm not even sure how Kenny Britt manages to keep getting back into the league with his past.

This only hurts was lingering sympathy for Brown remains.
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Pathetic.
 
Mason66 said:
is that because actually did wear the number 42 whereas Brown did not have his hands up?

Following along with a protest based on a known lie, just shows the intelligence level of the protesters, in this case being football players.
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It may be a stupid statement, but it was their right to make it.
 
DA60 said:
All I know is some cop shot and killed a teenager.

I have NO IDEA who was at fault. My guess is probably both, to at least some extent.

And I do believe - More or less - in the legal system of America.

So, if a Grand Jury (with some 'black' people on it) says the officer should not be charged, then until I see evidence to the contrary, that is good enough for me.
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I agree with that. We don't really know the facts, but there's not enough evidence to prove a case against the officer.

I still believe in the right of the players to make their statement.
 
Texmex said:
How long did this take, two seconds. I watched three games yesterday and this incident didn't cost me any time.
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Time required isn't a factor. I don't watch football for politics, and I don't care to hear the political beliefs of football players anymore than they would care to hear the politics of a furniture maker.
 
humbolt said:
Time required isn't a factor. I don't watch football for politics, and I don't care to hear the political beliefs of football players anymore than they would care to hear the politics of a furniture maker.
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Deal with it! If you don't like it, don't watch football.
 
mike2810 said:
They were on nfl team time. It was the intro to the game.

Wonder if your supervisor or company president would agree with you.
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and they did the intro to the game. Do NFL rules specify some particular hand placement during the run onto the field?
 
rocket88 said:
Do you think they should crack down on players making a statement you disagree with?
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What does my opinion have to do with anything. They are basing the action on a lie before a game.

If they allow this protest they must allow any protest any other team member wants to engage in no matter the subject matter.

Was this allowed because it was about a black person?
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: I have no idea. Nor do you.
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That is the point. I know of no rule which prohibited the players from running onto the field as they did.
 
Texmex said:
Apples and lug nuts. If these players had disrupted the game by walking around protesting it would be one thing. What they did was nothing of the sort.
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I think you're forgetting about three US Olympians in 1968, who while receiving their medals, raised their fists as a show of Black Power: they lost their medals.

Nope; sorry, politics and organized sporting events don't mix, nor should they.
 
Mason66 said:
What does my opinion have to do with anything. They are basing the action on a lie before a game.

If they allow this protest they must allow any protest any other team member wants to engage in no matter the subject matter.

Was this allowed because it was about a black person?
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Bingo.

If five white guys openly displayed their support for the officer, the internet would explode and next week's games would be postponed.
 
jet57 said:
I think you're forgetting about three US Olympians in 1968, who while receiving their medals, raised their fists as a show of Black Power: they lost their medals.

Nope; sorry, politics and organized sporting events don't mix, nor should they.
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Things change in 46 years, or didn't you know that.
 
Texmex said:
Deal with it! If you don't like it, don't watch football.
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I won't watch the Rams now. They're 5-7, so maybe they should pay more attention to football, and less attention to failed politics and empty gestures.
 
jet57 said:
I think you're forgetting about three US Olympians in 1968, who while receiving their medals, raised their fists as a show of Black Power: they lost their medals.

Nope; sorry, politics and organized sporting events don't mix, nor should they.
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I remember that. Tommy Smith and John Carlos. It was a reminder that protests don't and shouldn't mix with athletics.
 
Mason66 said:
That is true, ,but I don't think they have the balls to do it.
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Agree. The NFL is a bit of a mystery these days.

I doubt they want to see a bunch of white players coming out next week in some obvious protest against the looters in Ferguson, but that could happen too, if it isn't stopped.
 
humbolt said:
I won't watch the Rams now. They're 5-7, so maybe they should pay more attention to football, and less attention to failed politics and empty gestures.
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How silly. There record has nothing to do with this and you know it.
 
tres borrachos said:
I remember that. Tommy Smith and John Carlos. It was a reminder that protests don't and shouldn't mix with athletics.
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I saw it too. I thought it was really bad then and I still do. Yeah, if the NFL does nothing it's going to go bad for the future.
 
haymarket said:
That is the point. I know of no rule which prohibited the players from running onto the field as they did.
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and yet the possibility that there is rather discredits the notion that their doing so is a right.
 
jet57 said:
I saw it too. I thought it was really bad then and I still do. Yeah, if the NFL does nothing it's going to go bad for the future.
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My first Olympic memory. I was 6 and my parents bought our first color television so we could watch the Olympics. When it happened, I remember the look of horror on my parents' faces. I didn't understand it of course, but I do now, and I often wonder if Smith & Carlos still think that was a good idea.

I do remember the controversy with Jim McMahon when he played for the Bears, and Pete Rozelle. I often think that was just McMahon being, well, McMahon.

I love it when the NFK players use their stage in support of things, like breast cancer research, and when Victor Cruz wore the name of one of the small victims of Sandy Hook on his gloves and sneakers (I think it said "Jack Pinto my hero" or something like that). But maybe that needs to stop too? I don't know.

I just know that intentional protests of anything not at all related to football are simply not a good idea.
 
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