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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I need more than the NAACP.
    Sure. Here is more

    https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/...s#.VHycLCgzJHg

    Please read the entire study. here is a small taste

    They look at what they call the “racial gap” in sentencing – the difference between sentences for black defendants and white defendants – and find that it varies across judges, showing that race is affecting sentencing decisions. “We find evidence of significant inter-judge disparity in the racial gap in incarceration rates, providing support for the model where at least some judges treat defendants differently based on their race,” Abrams and his co-authors note in the study. “The magnitude of this effect is substantial. The gap in incarceration rates between White and African-American defendants increases by 18 percentage points (compared to a mean incarceration rate of 51% for African-Americans and 38% for Whites) when moving from the 10th to 90th percentile judge in the racial gap distribution.”
    this site also provides a link to over 500 more pieces of information

    http://www.sentencingproject.org/tem...age.cfm?id=122

    So given these items, return to your first. If the justice system is stacked against african americans, how does this all play into it?
    It only serves to make things even worse. My father used to tell me not to point a finger of blame at other people because you normally have three of your own pointing right back at you. In other words, part of it is your own damn fault. Perhaps with the sad and long history of slavery and Jim Crow - todays black Americans can get away with two fingers pointing blame - but no doubt the parts of disfunctional behaviors and even a sub-culture that has emerged is also responsible for the sad state of Black America.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    American flags are at all games.
    Is that not a political statement? This was a player carrying the flag for "military appreciation month." Which is a league sanctioned political statement.

    If a person has a political bumper sticker on their car, should they be prevented from parking at their workplace?


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I responded to haymarket's prejudicial general statement in general.


    Unless he's suggesting anyone here stated that the rams being stupid is somehow being favored to be restricted by libertarians, the concept would have to be expanded to make sense, in it's utter nonsense of course.
    Read the thread. Many libertarians including yourself are saying that they should be prevented from making a statement.


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    An American flag is NOT a political statement.
    It's not?


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's not?
    The American flag can most certainly can be a political statement and quite often is a political statement.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Is that not a political statement? This was a player carrying the flag for "military appreciation month." Which is a league sanctioned political statement.

    If a person has a political bumper sticker on their car, should they be prevented from parking at their workplace?
    If it was "league sanctioned", you have your answer there. They approved it.

    The American flag is at every game. The National Anthem is sung at every game. This is America. This isn't the home of Michael Brown.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sure. Here is more

    https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/...s#.VHycLCgzJHg

    Please read the entire study. here is a small taste


    I don't fully disagree with this. I also believe all non violent felons should be released, regardless of race. End the war on drugs and most of this goes away. I also believe economics plays a factor here as well.


    But then again. how much is this due to the fact that african americans commit most violent crimes? how does that affect sentencing (wrongly) of non violent african american drug offenders?

    Race, Lead, and Juvenile Crime | Mother Jones

    This guy blames lead, but the point is, the numbers:




    Good news is it's decreasing. significantly.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Read the thread. Many libertarians including yourself are saying that they should be prevented from making a statement.
    Read the thread. Many libertarians are saying they should be prevented from making a statement at a football game which is someone else's time and dollar.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's not?

    No.



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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Read the thread. Many libertarians including yourself are saying that they should be prevented from making a statement.

    When the **** did I say that?


    They can be as stupid as they want to be, That's thier right.
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