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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I never claimed white people are oppressed. I would argue that poor rural white do not have the same depenent welfare state as urban poor do.
    What about poor rural blacks?

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Real question:

    Who right now is at work, and on this site making political statements?
    I'm off today. And not on my employer's computer.

    Can you tell me who on this site is making political statements while wearing a uniform that was provided to them by their employer so that we can all see the employer's name?
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

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    One reason I love this site is to watch the constant hypocrisy of those who self identify as Right Libertarians pretending to love freedom and liberty and individualism and then going through all sorts of twists and turns to condemn people exercising their rights if it is not on the right side of the political continuum.


    Burning **** down, and looting is not "liberty, freedom".
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What about poor rural blacks?


    What about them? What about poor urban whites? I think you are obfuscating my words at this point.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    She only defends the freedom she personally agrees with. Typical right-winger.

    These players did nothing wrong. I wish this coming Sunday every player in the league would follow suit.
    Nice.

    Example of whose freedom I personally agree with who was protesting incorrectly on national television while in their employer's uniform? I'll wait.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course it does. Simply compare the demographics of black males in society with the incarceration rate. There are only two possible explanations:

    1- far too many black males are inherently deviates coming from an inferior race and culture which disproportionately manifests itself in low intelligence and violent criminal behavior placing them closer to predatory animals than humans, or
    2- centuries of slavery and Jim Crow have wreaked untold damage upon African Americans as a collective group in the USA causing all manner of sociological malfunctions impacting them at a greater rate than other groups in our nation and despite some efforts, we still have a very long way to go to actual equality in all phases of our society.

    I pick the second.
    3. Black males are more likely to grow up in a culture that encourages, even mythologizes, criminal behavior while being enabled by others who choose to minimize if not deny individual responsibility, without a decent father figure capable of turning them from the path of least resistance.

    Want to know how we can tell?

    Decades ago, when your theory would predict those effects would be stronger, the actual incidence is weaker. It is the loss of the family structure and the rise of the idiotic child-man "honor" culture complete with acceptance and even promotion of violence and crime that actually go far to explain today's disparity.




    Seriously, to call your post a strawman would be an insult to strawmen.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Where did I say "Exclusive"? Do you deny there is a "collective identity" in poor urban populations whether it's south boston, or the south bronx?




    'Acting White' Remains a Barrier for Black Education - Reason.com
    Acting white - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Talking white: Black people’s disdain for proper English and academic achievement is a myth.

    Am I supposed to post articles about "talking black"? There are probably tips in Rapper magazine.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Possibly. Maybe the Tea Party is free to move to a country where the government keeps their hands off of people's government run Medicare. Should we round up everybody who expresses an opinion that differs from the official line of the government and deport them?
    The Tea Partiers as also free to leave. Remind me of the last time a bunch of Tea Partiers protested on national television while in their employer's uniform?
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What do you mean "it does"?





    I pick the second as well, and I also will add the glorification by pop culture of the so called "thug lifestyle", and the culture within the black community where an getting an education can get you branded as "acting white".

    You also forget years of slavery breaking up families led to a culture that values less two parent couples and all the good having both figures in a childs life does.

    Or even the liberal democrat decimating the black community by making sure it's dependent on thier handouts by playing into the dependent lifestyle with always promises of "more".
    this fact sheet from the NAACP shows beyond any doubt that race alone plays a significant role in the criminal justice system

    Criminal Justice Fact Sheet | NAACP

    As far as your other points - I agree 100% with you that glorification of the thug lifestyle is terrible and must stop as it hurts black kids and handicaps them in American life.

    I agree with your point that branding certain behaviors as "acting white" must also stop as it hurts black kids and handicaps them in American life.

    I agree with you that slavery and the break up of the black family established a pattern that hurts black families today.

    I even agree with you that an over reliance on welfare for too long a time has also hurt black families handicapping some in American life today. Sadly, welfare and handouts was looked at by some as cheaper than actual rehabilitation and job training so it was viewed by some on both sides of the aisle as the easier or at least the cheaper alternative in the short run.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Am I supposed to post articles about "talking black"? There are probably tips in Rapper magazine.


    You can post whatever you want. I am unsure of the relevancy though.
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