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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're confusing racial bigotry and racism. You do believe there is more to racism than racial bigotry, right? Do you believe blacks oppress whites collectively?



    Projecting absolutes is stupid. Racism existing in the justice system does not make it the sole factor in crime rates. Another factor, for example, is poverty.



    You avoided my point, question to answer your own.


    I agree, poverty, and culture play a large role here.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products. It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do." - St. Louis Police Officers Assn. business manager Jeff Roorda.


    Cars, beer, soft drinks/snacks and cell phone providers are some the top advertisers on NFL games. No one but cops and "the good people" buy these products? What a doofus.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It was an incorrect statement. The "heavy hand of government"? They're free to move to a country where the government isn't so heavy handed.
    Possibly. Maybe the Tea Party is free to move to a country where the government keeps their hands off of people's government run Medicare. Should we round up everybody who expresses an opinion that differs from the official line of the government and deport them?


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I agree, poverty, and culture play a large role here.
    Tell us about this culture exclusive to black people. What is it about?

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course it does. Simply compare the demographics of black males in society with the incarceration rate. There are only two possible explanations:
    What do you mean "it does"?


    1- far too many black males are inherently deviates coming from an inferior race and culture which disproportionately manifests itself in low intelligence and violent criminal behavior placing them closer to predatory animals than humans, or
    2- centuries of slavery and Jim Crow have wreaked untold damage upon African Americans as a collective group in the USA causing all manner of sociological malfunctions impacting them at a greater rate than other groups in our nation and despite some efforts, we still have a very long way to go to actual equality in all phases of our society.

    I pick the second.


    I pick the second as well, and I also will add the glorification by pop culture of the so called "thug lifestyle", and the culture within the black community where an getting an education can get you branded as "acting white".

    You also forget years of slavery breaking up families led to a culture that values less two parent couples and all the good having both figures in a childs life does.

    Or even the liberal democrat decimating the black community by making sure it's dependent on thier handouts by playing into the dependent lifestyle with always promises of "more".
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Real question:

    Who right now is at work, and on this site making political statements?


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One reason I love this site is to watch the constant hypocrisy of those who self identify as Right Libertarians pretending to love freedom and liberty and individualism and then going through all sorts of twists and turns to condemn people exercising their rights if it is not on the right side of the political continuum.
    I have to disagree with you here: what if five or six charcters at Disney Land decided to walk through the park with their hands up? The NFL is politlcally neutral and they should go out of their way to protect that status. It opens up a very ugly can of worms of they don't.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One reason I love this site is to watch the constant hypocrisy of those who self identify as Right Libertarians pretending to love freedom and liberty and individualism and then going through all sorts of twists and turns to condemn people exercising their rights if it is not on the right side of the political continuum.
    Right Libertarians (of which you know nothing) don't necessarily support a person's right to do something that is a political statement without his employer's permission. This particular Right Libertarian doesn't. I'm not even allowed to have a political bumper sticker on my car as per my employer's rules. My freedom isn't being compromised. I'm free to find a job that allows me to make public political statements on my employer's time. Isn't freedom grand?
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Tell us about this culture exclusive to black people. What is it about?



    Where did I say "Exclusive"? Do you deny there is a "collective identity" in poor urban populations whether it's south boston, or the south bronx?




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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Ah - defending freedom I see.
    She only defends the freedom she personally agrees with. Typical right-winger.

    These players did nothing wrong. I wish this coming Sunday every player in the league would follow suit.

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