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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Many NFL players have been tweeting their support of Ray Rice since the other day. Maybe they think it's okay to smack your fiancée silly.
    Which is their statement, and they have the right to make it.

    Every year on Jackie Robinson Day, every player in Major League Baseball wears the number 42. That's a statement. It may be different because it's sanctioned by MLB, but it is a statement.


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Racism exists everywhere and it's not restricted to white on black.
    You're confusing racial bigotry and racism. You do believe there is more to racism than racial bigotry, right? Do you believe blacks oppress whites collectively?

    Do you think any of the culpability falls anywhere outside of the justice system here? Any at all?
    Projecting absolutes is stupid. Racism existing in the justice system does not make it the sole factor in crime rates. Another factor, for example, is poverty.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what would be appropriate protest for these players? Showing up at 5 AM in a roped off one block area in a desolate area where they are not seen or will not ruffle anyones feathers or sensibilities?
    They were on the NFL's time and representing the NFL. They aren't being paid to protest.

    They can protest all they want. They need to do it on their own time.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And the political response says what?

    Vote for the Democrats? Vote for the Republicans? Vote for Ted Cruz?
    It's a statement about the power of police and the heavy hand of government. It can be political without it being about Democrats and Republicans.


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Do you deny racism exists in the justice system?
    Of course it does. Simply compare the demographics of black males in society with the incarceration rate. There are only two possible explanations:

    1- far too many black males are inherently deviates coming from an inferior race and culture which disproportionately manifests itself in low intelligence and violent criminal behavior placing them closer to predatory animals than humans, or
    2- centuries of slavery and Jim Crow have wreaked untold damage upon African Americans as a collective group in the USA causing all manner of sociological malfunctions impacting them at a greater rate than other groups in our nation and despite some efforts, we still have a very long way to go to actual equality in all phases of our society.

    I pick the second.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Depends on what the statement is and how it's made. Johnny Cash wore black as a political statement ("I wear it for the poor and beaten down..."). He had a TV show in which he wore black, and continued to make most if not all public appearances in black for the last 30 years of his life. If I chose to wear all black to work (which I have done), and it was within the dress code...why would that be a problem?
    nice dodge.
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    Lets add a bit of a slant, a news story is being done that day at your place of work.
    Come into work and for five minutes hold up your hands and shout "hands up don't shoot" Is that appropriate?

    Like I stated. NFL players can do anything they want (legally) on their own time. IMO, their actions were inappropriate.

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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which is their statement, and they have the right to make it.

    Every year on Jackie Robinson Day, every player in Major League Baseball wears the number 42. That's a statement. It may be different because it's sanctioned by MLB, but it is a statement.
    They don't have a right to make it on the NFL's time. And I doubt the NFL is pleased with this. Roger Goodell is apparently expected to police what they do in elevators in Atlantic City. He has a right to demand proper behavior on his time.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    They were on the NFL's time and representing the NFL. They aren't being paid to protest.

    They can protest all they want. They need to do it on their own time.
    Ah - defending freedom I see.
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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Racism exists everywhere and it's not restricted to white on black.
    And as usual, we can't have any discussion about race without someone claiming that white people are oppressed....


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    re: The St. Louis Rams’ ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Protest [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's a statement about the power of police and the heavy hand of government. It can be political without it being about Democrats and Republicans.
    It was an incorrect statement. The "heavy hand of government"? They're free to move to a country where the government isn't so heavy handed.
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