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    NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record[W:199]

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    NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    The first ten months of 2014 have been the hottest since record keeping began more than 130 years ago, according to data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
    That may be hard to believe for people in places like Buffalo, New York, which saw a record early snowfall this year.

    But NOAA says, despite the early bitter cold across parts of the United States in recent weeks, it's been a hot year so far for the Earth.
    Then we have yet one more reason, too many Americans don't believe the science
    This October was the hottest October on record globally, NOAA data showed. The mercury climbed more than one degree Fahrenheit above the 20th century average of 57.1 F.
    It was the fourth warmest October on record for the United States, NOAA said.
    "See, I told you warmists - it's not getting any hotter, in fact temperatures have dropped slightly." say far too many clueless folks who for some reason think their personal experience is good for the whole world.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a little something to foster debate on the forum



    Then we have yet one more reason, too many Americans don't believe the science


    "See, I told you warmists - it's not getting any hotter, in fact temperatures have dropped slightly." say far too many clueless folks who for some reason think their personal experience is good for the whole world.

    LOL !!!

    They're about as credible as a Used Car Salesman after the were busted for FRAUD !!

    You remember, don't you ??

    Fudging temperature data so the y could perpetuate the false narrative of " global warming " ??

    Sorry NOAAA. You sold out any semblance of credibility when you got in bed with the Progressive agenda.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record



    This doesn't include the last two years but those records in the 20s and 30s still stand.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a little something to foster debate on the forum



    Then we have yet one more reason, too many Americans don't believe the science


    "See, I told you warmists - it's not getting any hotter, in fact temperatures have dropped slightly." say far too many clueless folks who for some reason think their personal experience is good for the whole world.
    I read the headline initially as NCAA and chuckled. thank you.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Personal anecdote, I've lived in the mountains for 30 years. And every year the "snow line" has gone up in elevation so that now, our valley no longer receives snow in the winter but receives rain.

    For the last decade we have had snow in the valley only 2 years of that decade.

    We used to get 10 foot snow drifts...have snow days for school, have the city shut down by snow.

    Haven't had a snow day in...almost 20 years? At least 15 years.

    Now what could cause the snow line to rise, except atmospheric temperature?

    What caused this snow line to rise?

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by IDNeon View Post
    Personal anecdote, I've lived in the mountains for 30 years. And every year the "snow line" has gone up in elevation so that now, our valley no longer receives snow in the winter but receives rain.

    For the last decade we have had snow in the valley only 2 years of that decade.

    We used to get 10 foot snow drifts...have snow days for school, have the city shut down by snow.

    Haven't had a snow day in...almost 20 years? At least 15 years.

    Now what could cause the snow line to rise, except atmospheric temperature?

    What caused this snow line to rise?
    Well, for one, those mountains aren't the same place on the globe as they were 30 years ago. The plates are moving and they may be located in a place where 40 feet to the west or south makes a difference. There's probably a whole lot more blacktop in the area than there was 30 years ago, blacktop collects and reflects heat pushing weather higher up the mountain (that's what happens when warm wind strike a mountain range). Could be your memory isn't what it used to be, Have you checked old Almanacs going back thirty years to see what actually happened?

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post


    This doesn't include the last two years but those records in the 20s and 30s still stand.
    That's for the lower 48 in the U.S. The ten hottest years globally all occurred in the last 20 years.


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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Let us assume that GW is real and that man plays a significant role. Why should I care?

    I know that question may seem harsh but I honestly wish to know why I should really be concerned about it. Being on the latter half of my life what changes may happen that will significantly affect me personally?

    If that seems a bit selfish than you would be correct. I have very little sympathy when it comes to humans. We are the most destructive force on the planet that by large could care less what our behavior does to other species or the planet. GW's possible affects personally bothers me more because of what it may mean for other life on the planet that played no part than I am about humans. As far as I am concerned if GW causes mankind great hardship or extinction it would be just what we asked for. We (most) totally disregard other life in our day to day, we do not even consider them we are so self absorbed. Why do we deserve anything better than self annihilation?

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by IDNeon View Post
    Personal anecdote, I've lived in the mountains for 30 years. And every year the "snow line" has gone up in elevation so that now, our valley no longer receives snow in the winter but receives rain.

    For the last decade we have had snow in the valley only 2 years of that decade.

    We used to get 10 foot snow drifts...have snow days for school, have the city shut down by snow.

    Haven't had a snow day in...almost 20 years? At least 15 years.

    Now what could cause the snow line to rise, except atmospheric temperature?

    What caused this snow line to rise?
    http://www.fao.org/docrep/017/i2869e/i2869e00.pdf

    "Mountains and Climate Change: From Understanding to Action" pg. 7

    Secondly, temperature changes with altitude. The impacts of a warmer climate are
    different for different elevations. Areas at the snow line or freezing line will be af-
    fected particularly heavily, as they might undergo a shift from mainly snow-covered
    to mainly snow-free. For example, every degree Celsius increase in temperature will
    cause the snow line to rise on average by about 150 m, and even more at lower el-
    evations. In such regions precipitation will change from snow to rain. The decrease
    in snow cover will lead to an above-average warming of mountains, because snow-
    free surfaces absorb much more radiation than snow-covered surfaces.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, for one, those mountains aren't the same place on the globe as they were 30 years ago. The plates are moving and they may be located in a place where 40 feet to the west or south makes a difference. There's probably a whole lot more blacktop in the area than there was 30 years ago, blacktop collects and reflects heat pushing weather higher up the mountain (that's what happens when warm wind strike a mountain range). Could be your memory isn't what it used to be, Have you checked old Almanacs going back thirty years to see what actually happened?
    Tectonic plates don't move that fast, more like 5 feet tops, and I can't imagine that would change the climate???

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