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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, you have a bunch of Scientists, getting grants for their work, giving review of, and agreeing with others, and in turn submitting their own works, getting grant money, and giving review, and agreeing with others....

    Sounds incestuous to me....

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    "...as the tale of Yo****aka Fujii shows, peer review doesn’t work too well as a fraud-detection system...."

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    And you have a better system?

    This one has seemed to work fairly well for a century. Do you have problems with the peer review system in biology? Chemistry? Medicine? Any other discipline?
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, you have a bunch of Scientists, getting grants for their work, giving review of, and agreeing with others, and in turn submitting their own works, getting grant money, and giving review, and agreeing with others....
    Not even close to reality. Competition is steep for grant money, and peer review isn't a cakewalk.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Is there a scarier religion in the world than the Global Warming moonies?

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not even close to reality. Competition is steep for grant money, and peer review isn't a cakewalk.
    Exactly. Anyone familiar with the grant system, and peer review, know its a tough process. Agreement is never a given, and usually you need to make a very solid case for both grants and to get through a challenging peer review process from the major journals. Minor journals can get stuff passed thru easier, and joke journals just require payment. Thats why you see all the deniers who cite research relying on the joke journals.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is there a scarier religion in the world than the Global Warming moonies?
    I love it when they try to bring science down to the level of religion, insulting all religious people in the process.

    When Bill Nye "debated" creationism with Ken Ham, they got asked a question about what would change their mind.

    Nye's answer, in short: "Evidence."

    Ham's answer, in short: "Nothing."
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Exactly. Anyone familiar with the grant system, and peer review, know its a tough process. Agreement is never a given, and usually you need to make a very solid case for both grants and to get through a challenging peer review process from the major journals. Minor journals can get stuff passed thru easier, and joke journals just require payment. Thats why you see all the deniers who cite research relying on the joke journals.
    Not true. As someone so invested in the theory, you know very well the amount of money available for research has not been this massive since the Manhattan Project.

    Climate Change - Terra Viva Grants Directory

    Extramural Research Competitions | US EPA

    Research Program and Funding Opportunities


    I could list a hundred current sites with lists of grants being offered from government as well as private sources.

    You're either making up this narrative about difficulty and peer review, or purposefully trying to hide the truth.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I love it when they try to bring science down to the level of religion, insulting all religious people in the process.
    Well, given they dont understand science, it seems like a religion to them.

    Kind of like aboriginal tribes who joined cargo cults in WW2. They dont know any better.

    But the additional twist seems to be fear... because Conservatives tend to react to things they dont understand with fear rather than curiosity. And they cant protect themselves from this scary scientific notion with guns or the military, so they have no choice but to deny it, so as not to be overwhelmed by their infantile fear.

    This might seem a bit over the top, but its got more truth in it than most realize.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Not true. As someone so invested in the theory, you know very well the amount of money available for research has not been this massive since the Manhattan Project.

    Climate Change - Terra Viva Grants Directory

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    I could list a hundred current sites with lists of grants being offered from government as well as private sources.

    You're either making up this narrative about difficulty and peer review, or purposefully trying to hide the truth.
    This doesn't refute the notion that science grants are still competitive. Stop trying to do math with your gut.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Not true. As someone so invested in the theory, you know very well the amount of money available for research has not been this massive since the Manhattan Project.

    Climate Change - Terra Viva Grants Directory

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    I could list a hundred current sites with lists of grants being offered from government as well as private sources.

    You're either making up this narrative about difficulty and peer review, or purposefully trying to hide the truth.
    Yes. There are a lot of sites. And there is a lot of competition for grants. A whole lot. Anyone involved in scientific fields knows this as fact.

    In terms of publication, the top journals (those career making ones) reject about 99% of papers that are submitted to them. Thats not an exaggeration at all. Its really tough to get an article in Nature, PNAS or Science. The ones that do are truly the top papers in science.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, given they dont understand science, it seems like a religion to them.

    Kind of like aboriginal tribes who joined cargo cults in WW2. They dont know any better.

    But the additional twist seems to be fear... because Conservatives tend to react to things they dont understand with fear rather than curiosity. And they cant protect themselves from this scary scientific notion with guns or the military, so they have no choice but to deny it, so as not to be overwhelmed by their infantile fear.

    This might seem a bit over the top, but its got more truth in it than most realize.
    Science isn't being applied. Politics and opportunity for free government money is being applied.

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