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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Since we don't understand the science yet, the responsible thing to do is to attempt to spread fear.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Destroying?

    Jesus. I had to explain your OWN ARGUMENT to you!

    Now tell us how picking a single outlier year from datasets that dont correspond to actual surface temperature readings makes any sense at all.
    Son, you didn't explain anything to me.

    A single outlier year ??? What the hell are you talking about ??

    I'm providing proof that there has been no upward trend in global temps for the past 15 plus years ??

    I don't think you understand what you are talking about and are a bit over your head here.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a little something to foster debate on the forum



    Then we have yet one more reason, too many Americans don't believe the science


    "See, I told you warmists - it's not getting any hotter, in fact temperatures have dropped slightly." say far too many clueless folks who for some reason think their personal experience is good for the whole world.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Son, you didn't explain anything to me.

    A single outlier year ??? What the hell are you talking about ??

    I'm providing proof that there has been no upward trend in global temps for the past 15 plus years ??

    I don't think you understand what you are talking about and are a bit over your head here.
    Maybe you should get a trend line and get back to us. Or better yet, a moving average- 5 year maybe?

    Unless you don't know what a trend line is, since you apparently were confused on the last graph where you thought a trend line was graphed.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Maybe you should get a trend line and get back to us. Or better yet, a moving average- 5 year maybe?

    Unless you don't know what a trend line is, since you apparently were confused on the last graph where you thought a trend line was graphed.
    My mistake. I thought you might be knowledgeable enough to see where a trend line would be on the graph.

    Guess you don't know enough about graphing to know that without it being actually drawn for you. My bad.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    It is interesting that, while 97% of the scientific community (AAAS,UCSUSA, etc) believes that climate change
    (or global warming, take your pick) is the result of fossil fuels and human activity, people still cling to
    the 3% as "proof" that it is not real.
    This reminds me of Jor-El trying to warn about Krypton and everyone following the one scientist who insisted, "Krypton is just adjusting it's orbit." We all know how that turned out!

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a little something to foster debate on the forum



    Then we have yet one more reason, too many Americans don't believe the science


    "See, I told you warmists - it's not getting any hotter, in fact temperatures have dropped slightly." say far too many clueless folks who for some reason think their personal experience is good for the whole world.



    Question. How does a single year prove a trend one way or the other? What is the trend over the past 20 years?
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleray View Post
    It is interesting that, while 97% of the scientific community (AAAS,UCSUSA, etc) believes that climate change
    (or global warming, take your pick) is the result of fossil fuels and human activity, people still cling to
    the 3% as "proof" that it is not real.
    This reminds me of Jor-El trying to warn about Krypton and everyone following the one scientist who insisted, "Krypton is just adjusting it's orbit." We all know how that turned out!
    Sorry, but the claim that 97% of the scientific community believes in man-made global warming has been thoroughly debunked.

    Try again.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Sorry, but the claim that 97% of the scientific community believes in man-made global warming has been thoroughly debunked.

    Try again.
    What We Know | What We Know
    1. Climate scientists agree: climate change is happening here and now. Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening ...
    Here's my link.
    Where is yours?

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleray View Post
    What We Know | What We Know
    1. Climate scientists agree: climate change is happening here and now. Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening ...
    Here's my link.
    Where is yours?
    Sorry to disappoint you, but your claim has been proven false:

    In 2013, John Cook, an Australia-based blogger, and some of his friends reviewed abstracts of peer-reviewed papers published from 1991 to 2011. Mr. Cook reported that 97% of those who stated a position explicitly or implicitly suggest that human activity is responsible for some warming. His findings were published in Environmental Research Letters. Mr. Cook’s work was quickly debunked. In Science and Education in August 2013, for example, David R. Legates (a professor of geography at the University of Delaware and former director of its Center for Climatic Research) and three coauthors reviewed the same papers as did Mr. Cook and found “only 41 papers—0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.0 percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion, and not 97.1 percent—had been found to endorse” the claim that human activity is causing most of the current warming. Elsewhere, climate scientists including Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir J. Shaviv and Nils- Axel Morner, whose research questions the alleged consensus, protested that Mr. Cook ignored or misrepresented their work. Rigorous international surveys conducted by German scientists Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch —most recently published in Environmental Science & Policy in 2010—have found that most climate scientists disagree with the consensus on key issues such as the reliability of climate data and computer models.
    Joseph Bast and Roy Spencer: The Myth of the Climate Change '97%' - WSJ

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