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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    One more time.

    Lets see if you can answer my question this time.

    If NOAAs process was legitimate, WHY DID THE NOAA REVISE THEIR ASSERTIONS?
    Let's see if you can actually comprehend this. The claim was rebuffed by somebody who didn't A) understand the process for gathering that data and B) lack of gridding. Now, your smoking gun evidence that global warming is not happening simply because corrections were made is about as laughable as saying gravity isn't real because Einstein's work corrected some of Newtons. As to why the NOAA updated its db, it's been explained ad nauseum to conspiracy theorists like yourself, so I'll simply post the explanation by something other than naturalnews:

    First, the database update was no secret. NOAA previewed the changes years in advance by publishing descriptions of its methods in peer-reviewed scientific journals. The government agency also announced the new data set through public statements, and created a tool for users to compare and contrast temperatures from before and after the update. NOAA also makes its data and computer code available for anyone who wants to check the numbers. The new data set is called nClimDiv, and you can find more information about it on NOAA's National Climatic Data Center website.

    Second, NOAA never changes the actual temperatures that were so carefully recorded over the decades. But it's no simple task to compare the present with the past. Methods of measuring temperature have changed markedly over the past century. The database tweaks are meant to make the comparisons between modern and obsolete technology more accurate.
    In short, what you're really arguing is why isn't science as rigid as religion. It isn't because it's not based on dogma.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!!

    They're about as credible as a Used Car Salesman after the were busted for FRAUD !!

    You remember, don't you ??

    Fudging temperature data so the y could perpetuate the false narrative of " global warming " ??

    Sorry NOAAA. You sold out any semblance of credibility when you got in bed with the Progressive agenda.
    LOL...and your proof of this outrageous claim is what????

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-global-warmi/

    It think its because you find the Truth "Inconvenient" and often enjoy being out of step of 97% of the experts.

    http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploa..._SPM_FINAL.pdf
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...s-advanced.htm
    http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

    Even the Pentagon thinks you are all wet.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-1...-conflict.html

    Go ahead and stick your head back in the sand.... it simply highlights your best feature...

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

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    This doesn't include the last two years but those records in the 20s and 30s still stand.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Because everyone knows the US is the world. It's reeel big!
    So is the Sun.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    LOL...and your proof of this outrageous claim is what????

    Fox's Doocy: NASA fudged data to make the case for global warming | PunditFact

    It think its because you find the Truth "Inconvenient" and often enjoy being out of step of 97% of the experts.

    http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploa..._SPM_FINAL.pdf
    Is there a scientific consensus on global warming?
    Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Consensus

    Even the Pentagon thinks you are all wet.

    Pentagon Warns Climate Change Will Intensify Conflict - Bloomberg

    Go ahead and stick your head back in the sand.... it simply highlights your best feature...

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    Hatuey doesn't have the integrity or the humility to answer this question.

    So maybe you can.

    If there was nothing wrong with NOAA's " Scientific " process of manipulating temperature data, WHY DID THEY REVISE THEIR CLAIM OF JULY 2012 BEING THE HOTTEST MONTH ON RECORD ?

    After they were caught they made a quiet revision.

    Why ?

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by IDNeon View Post
    Personal anecdote, I've lived in the mountains for 30 years. And every year the "snow line" has gone up in elevation so that now, our valley no longer receives snow in the winter but receives rain.

    For the last decade we have had snow in the valley only 2 years of that decade.

    We used to get 10 foot snow drifts...have snow days for school, have the city shut down by snow.

    Haven't had a snow day in...almost 20 years? At least 15 years.

    Now what could cause the snow line to rise, except atmospheric temperature?

    What caused this snow line to rise?
    Mother nature.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Let's see if you can actually comprehend this. The claim was rebuffed by somebody who didn't A) understand the process for gathering that data and B) lack of gridding. Now, your smoking gun evidence that global warming is not happening simply because corrections were made is about as laughable as saying gravity isn't real because Einstein's work corrected some of Newtons. As to why the NOAA updated its db, it's been explained ad nauseum to conspiracy theorists like yourself, so I'll simply post the explanation by something other than naturalnews:



    In short, what you're really arguing is why isn't science as rigid as religion. It isn't because it's not based on dogma.
    THE NOAA MADE REVISIONS. WHY ?

    BECAUSE the NOAA was caught manipulating data so they could arrive at a predetermined conclusion.

    That's not Science. Thats fraud and your'e naive enough to buy into it.

    Goddard is a ACTUAL SCIENTIST who understands that Science has nothing to do with a Consensus

    So as you hypocritically lecture me about " dogma " and attempt to arbitrarily redefine the Scientific process please understand that REAL Science is based on empirical evidence and data not adjusted to fit ones narrative.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Satellite.jpg

    Temperatures have changed little in the past 15+ years.

    Much ado over nothing.

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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Satellite.jpg

    Temperatures have changed little in the past 15+ years.

    Much ado over nothing.
    If you'll look at your graph, you'll see that temperatures certainly HAVE changed in 15 years. An increase around 0.2 degrees at least.

    That's pretty substantial, and given you are using two measures (satellite temps measuring the troposphere, not the surface) that are not considered to be as accurate or reflective of actual warming, it's even more concerning.
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    Re: NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    If you'll look at your graph, you'll see that temperatures certainly HAVE changed in 15 years. An increase around 0.2 degrees at least.

    That's pretty substantial, and given you are using two measures (satellite temps measuring the troposphere, not the surface) that are not considered to be as accurate or reflective of actual warming, it's even more concerning.
    No, the temperature has remained steady for 15 years. Reading the year scale along the bottom might clear up your misunderstanding.

    Ever heard of a trend line ??

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