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    Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    One in three Americans has put off seeking medical treatment in 2014 due to high costs, according to Gallup — the highest percentage since Gallup began asking the question in 2001. Thirty-three percent of Americans have delayed medical treatment for themselves or their families because of the costs they’d have to pay, according to the survey. Obamacare, of course, had promised that it would help make health care more affordable for everyone, but the number of people who can’t afford a trip to the doctor has actually risen three points since 2013, before most Obamacare provisions took effect.
    The hardest-hit: the middle-class. Americans with an annual household income of between $30,000 and $75,000 began delaying medical care over costs more in 2014, up to 38 percent in 2014 from 33 percent last year; among households that earn above $75,000, 28 percent delayed care this year, compared to just 17 percent last year.

    Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs | The Daily Caller


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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    When more people get health insurance, the more of those insured people will defer from medical care. If you read the actual report from Gallup instead of the spin that Daily Caller puts on things you'll see.

    Quote Originally Posted by From the Actual Gallup Article
    One of the goals of opening the government exchanges was to enable more Americans to get health insurance to help cover the costs of needed medical treatments. While many Americans have gained insurance, there has been no downturn in the percentage who say they have had to put off needed medical treatment because of cost. This may reflect high deductibles or copays that are part of the newly insured's plans, although separate research has shown that most of the newly insured in 2014 are satisfied with their health coverage.

    Variation in the pricing for medical treatments, not to mention differences in how much insurance plans cover, could be confusing Americans or making them fear a needed treatment is too expensive. And while the costs of medical procedures aren't rising as rapidly as they once were, it is still too early to tell if that is an effect of the Affordable Care Act and how prices may change in the future.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    When more people get health insurance, the more of those insured people will defer from medical care. If you read the actual report from Gallup instead of the spin that Daily Caller puts on things you'll see.
    I'm not understanding how what you posted contradicts what J-mac posted... Costs aren't increasing as quickly for God only knows the reason... And more (middle class) people are delaying care due to increased costs... Both of those statements can be true. What you posted even gives a potential reason for the delays:

    This may reflect high deductibles or copays that are part of the newly insured's plans,

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I'm not understanding how what you posted contradicts what J-mac posted... Costs aren't increasing as quickly for God only knows the reason... And more (middle class) people are delaying care due to increased costs... Both of those statements can be true.
    OP is trying to imply that Obamacare is raising the cost of medical procedures. The Gallup Poll insists that it is too soon to assume the ACA is having a negative or positive effect remains to be seen.
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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Buck is trying to imply that Obamacare is raising the cost of medical procedures. The Gallup Poll insists that it is too soon to assume the ACA is having a negative or positive effect remains to be seen.

    I didn't make that implication... It's not raising the cost of the procedure, but may be increasing the amount the insured is having to pay out of pocket... Gallup found that more (middle class) individuals are delaying treatment due to costs and what you posted didn't contradict that. It would appear that (according to Gallup) this may be due to the increased OOP expenses in the new plans. It seems a reasonable argument.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I didn't make that implication... It's not raising the cost of the procedure, but may be increasing the amount the insured is having to pay out of pocket... Gallup found that more (middle class) individuals are delaying treatment due to costs and what you posted didn't contradict that. It would appear that (according to Gallup) this may be due to the increased OOP expenses in the new plans. It seems a reasonable argument.
    Honest mistake, I meant to write OP, I meant to write J-Mac (and the Daily Caller) attempted to imply ACA is at fault for rising medical costs. Which as stated before, remains to be seen.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    When more people get health insurance, the more of those insured people will defer from medical care. If you read the actual report from Gallup instead of the spin that Daily Caller puts on things you'll see.

    When will you people stop spinning ?

    Honestly, you're just coming off as being a bunch of desperate hacks.

    There's no excuse anymore.

    ObamaCare is designed to target the Middle class by increasing their cost and raising their premiums. It doesn't affect the poor and it doesn't effect the rich.

    That was evident even before the Democrats shoved it down our throats.

    It was evident before Gruber came out and told the truth.

    You cannot take away the Insurance companies ability to price insurance via actuarial tables and then expect them to lower the cost of their products. Thats common sense

    You cant tax the hell out of the Health Insurance industry, and the Companies that sell products used in the Healthcare industry and NOT expect cost to rise

    ObamaCare put the economy in a stagnant holding pattern for the last 6 years.

    Now thats its being implemented its going to, by design remove more and more of the Middle classes discretionary income

    At a time when people are struggling to make ends meet too.

    Its a unmitigated DISASTER.

    Obama DESERVES every bit of this toxic legacy he's constructed

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    When will you people stop spinning ?
    Me? I didn't write that Daily Caller article.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Honestly, you're just coming off as being a bunch of desperate hacks.
    Do you think I'm a writer for the Daily Caller?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    There's no excuse anymore.
    I agree, there's no excuse for horribly written articles like this one from the Daily Caller.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    ObamaCare is designed to target the Middle class by increasing their cost and raising their premiums. It doesn't affect the poor and it doesn't effect the rich.
    Do you have evidence that supports this wild claim? Other than you're own assertions of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    That was evident even before the Democrats shoved it down our throats.
    Shoved down? It was passed through Congress, the Senate, then signed into law by Obama.


    [QUOTE=Fenton;1064036238]It was evident before Gruber came out and told the truth.

    Oh great, more of Gruber. /eyeroll

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You cannot take away the Insurance companies ability to price insurance via actuarial tables and then expect them to lower the cost of their products. Thats common sense
    So you think Insurance Companies had a right to run roughshod on it's customers? Denying/removing them from coverage if they happen to get sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You cant tax the hell out of the Health Insurance industry, and the Companies that sell products used in the Healthcare industry and NOT expect cost to rise
    There's a tax on the industry, yes. But the increased revenue from the millions of Americans now signed up for Health Insurance would more than make up for whatever the tax hike may be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    ObamaCare put the economy in a stagnant holding pattern for the last 6 years.
    Stagnant holding pattern? It's been in a steady recover for the past six years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Now thats its being implemented its going to, by design remove more and more of the Middle classes discretionary income
    The design of Obamacare was to give more people access to quality healthcare. In that regard it hasn't failed due to the fact millions of people have signed on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    At a time when people are struggling to make ends meet too.
    A struggle that has been happening well before Obamacare and will continue to happen long after Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Its a unmitigated DISASTER.
    Except we don't actually know that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Obama DESERVES every bit of this toxic legacy he's constructed
    Obama hasn't been the best President, but you among others don't give him enough credit for the positive things he's done for the country.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Honest mistake, I meant to write OP, I meant to write J-Mac (and the Daily Caller) attempted to imply ACA is at fault for rising medical costs. Which as stated before, remains to be seen.
    That makes a bit more sense, but the article isn't making that claim either.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number Of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    When will you people stop spinning ?

    Honestly, you're just coming off as being a bunch of desperate hacks.

    There's no excuse anymore.

    ObamaCare is designed to target the Middle class by increasing their cost and raising their premiums. It doesn't affect the poor and it doesn't effect the rich.

    That was evident even before the Democrats shoved it down our throats.

    It was evident before Gruber came out and told the truth.

    You cannot take away the Insurance companies ability to price insurance via actuarial tables and then expect them to lower the cost of their products. Thats common sense

    You cant tax the hell out of the Health Insurance industry, and the Companies that sell products used in the Healthcare industry and NOT expect cost to rise

    ObamaCare put the economy in a stagnant holding pattern for the last 6 years.

    Now thats its being implemented its going to, by design remove more and more of the Middle classes discretionary income

    At a time when people are struggling to make ends meet too.

    Its a unmitigated DISASTER.

    Obama DESERVES every bit of this toxic legacy he's constructed
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