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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Were you around in the 60's? I recall the very same thing happening. Some people believe they need to tear stuff down and burn it to the ground before anything tangible in their favor happens. They think that is the only way to be heard, it worked in the 60's.
    Why is it always black people doing it? What's that about?

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Yet the dead thug wasn't dead when he left the car was he?
    And the dead thug you refer to went for the gun because he didn't have one didn't he?

    Which is why the cowardly cop got out of his car and unloaded his gun on a gun-less man right US Conservative?
    All very legal under the Missouri law also .

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Yet the dead thug wasn't dead when he left the car was he?
    And the dead thug you refer to went for the gun because he didn't have one didn't he?

    Which is why the cowardly cop got out of his car and unloaded his [Weapon of Mass Destruction] on a gun-less man right US Conservative?
    All very legal under the Missouri law also .
    That's a little more accurate for you.

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    Last edited by Jerry; 11-29-14 at 07:23 AM.

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday | Fox News

    Good, this is the next level to raise awareness of how cops have become lawless and brutal themselves.

    Then, a handful of around 15 protesters were arrested, so much for freedom to assemble, now they're trampling on constitutional rights, trying to tamp down peaceful demonstrations, how despicable.
    There is a freedom to assemble on public land, not private property. Protest on the street, you're good. Protest in a Mall, you're in jail.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday | Fox News

    Good, this is the next level to raise awareness of how cops have become lawless and brutal themselves.

    Then, a handful of around 15 protesters were arrested, so much for freedom to assemble, now they're trampling on constitutional rights, trying to tamp down peaceful demonstrations, how despicable.
    These malls, I would assume, are privately owned.

    If these protestors are so pissed off at the cops, then demonstrate outside of police stations or municipal buildings.

    These people that are shopping or trying to take the train are almost entirely made up of people that had nothing whatsoever to do with the shooting...why bother them? Public awareness? Please - almost every American has heard about Ferguson ad naseum.

    Imo, mostly what these protests are doing is pissing off normal, mostly decent people who just want to get on with their lives. Of course, the shoppers won't say that aloud because it's not PC.


    And (this is for the protestors) save the nonsense about this is a protest about police brutality...this is (IMO) about poverty and racism...and we have ALL heard it ALL before. The former won't be helped AT ALL by disrupting private enterprise and the latter won't be helped by whining about it all the time.
    You want less poverty? Get the government out of the evonomy as much as possible. And look to yourselves for wealth and prosperity, not others. IMO, America owes you basic rights, enough food/shelter/clothing to survive and basic medical/dental care. You want more, get it yourselves.
    You want less racism? Stop going on and on and on and on about it, stop self segregating yourselves, start fully integrating into 'white' society (which I realize is not easy) and eventually people will stop thinking of others as a different race and just think of them as a different person. Whining about is getting you nowhere.

    But whatever you do, protest those you are mad at - cops and government. Yelling at and disrupting people who have other things to do is not helping your cause...it's hurting it.

    20 years ago, I was very sympathetic to the protests about racism and poverty of 'black' Americans. Now, I am starting to get sick of it.
    Last edited by DA60; 11-29-14 at 08:28 AM.

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why is it always black people doing it? What's that about?
    I've often wondered about that too. I've wondered why, no matter what city you are in, MLK Drive (or road, street, whatever) is the armpit of the area. Do hey find the worst part of town and rename the road or does the area go to crap because of the name?

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday
    Which is wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    See how they're working things now, instead of burning, they're legally protesting, cops are arresting and violating people's first amendment rights,
    Not only were you wrong above you continue the hackery with a false statement. Figures.


    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    If I am a protester, and I walk in front of you on public property, namely a street or avenue, and say to you I am protesting the legal system, and I briefly make you stop and listen to me, I am not violating your rights. If you see me protesting on that avenue or street, and you choose not to go to the train entrance or a business because you want to avoid me, that is your prerogative, you don't have to face me if you do not want to, that is your right.
    If you briefly stop them you are impeding them, you are acting illegally.
    If you are on private property without permission you are acting illegally.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    You believe protests should be illegal, and cops have the right to gun down anybody they perceive as a threat to them.

    Brown was a threat.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    There is no constitutional right to chain doors shut, trespass on private property or block traffic. If these folks want to protest public policy then do so in the proper public spaces. Demanding the right of thugs to forcefully loot, rob and assault without allowing the right of self defense is not going to happen. Perhaps picking Brown as the "poster child" for their movement should be examined for what it is. These morons are not fooling many - they simply want to "protest" where others provide them climate controlled comfort because braving the elements is too much for most of these sissies.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Was the policeman's life still in danger when Brown got out of the car and walked away?
    Your question is dishonest.
    He wasn't shot walking away from the Officer. He was shot advancing on the Officer.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'd call unloading your gun on a petty criminal who was unarmed pathetic--wouldn't you Canada John ?
    Not in this case as he had already established himself as a threat prior to charging the Officer.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Yet the dead thug wasn't dead when he left the car was he?
    And? Irrelevant.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And the dead thug you refer to went for the gun because he didn't have one didn't he?
    Holy ****! You are trying to justify the thug taking an Officer's firearm.
    He shouldn't even be thinking it let alone reaching for it.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Which is why the cowardly cop got out of his car and unloaded his gun on a gun-less man right US Conservative?
    Another dishonest presentation.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I can see your confusion, or delusion concerning protests and cops who kill citizens.

    You believe protests should be illegal, and cops have the right to gun down anybody they perceive as a threat to them.

    Were you around in the 60's to see how the police state treated protesters? Sometimes extreme measures are taken by some protesters to amplify the meaning of the thing they're protesting for. Do you really believe other people would stand up and take notice if extreme measures weren't taken? I believe protesters would likely be ignored if they didn't do something to garner more attention.

    Being arrested for such, chaining yourself to a door, probably falls under disorderly conduct, probably a $100 fine, a small price for a point to be given and taken well. Resisting arrest might be a $200 fine, again, a small price for asserting an opinion and someone taking the point of the demonstration well. Isn't that better than setting things on fire? It's a peaceful protest.
    Did Brown have a right to violently attack Wilson and attempt to take his service weapon? Is there no right of self defense when violent thugs decide to attack folks and take what they want?
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