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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What a load of crap. From your own article...



    A dozen buildings and some cars being burned is peaceful?

    Or perhaps you're talking about the protesters that laid down on the floor of the stores? The Galleria Malls in Richmond Heights? Or the West County Mall in Des Peres? Sorry, according to your article none of those people were arrested. Although at least some of them probably should have been considering they were on private property, not public.

    Or are you talking about the people that chained themselves to trains for the train service from Oakland to San Francisco? You know, the train service that many people depend on in order to get home from work or to go to work? Which by the by is also private property. Not to mention all the safety issues of chaining yourself to a TRAIN.

    Or do you really call chaining doors to the Pacific Place Shopping Center in Seattle peaceful? God knows what the people inside of that building would have done had one of them protestors set the place on fire like they did the buildings in Ferguson.

    But hey! Its all justified right? After all, a white cop shot a black adult. All manners of vandalism and rioting and trespassing and other illegal actions are quite acceptable just because of that one simple fact. All other facts are not relevant and should just be ignored by all those righteous "peaceful protesters"....Right?
    Spectacular!!
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    All this misplaced angst in the name of a petty criminal and bully who finally met someone not willing to just take his ****. Pathetic.

    And as for the protestors being arrested, since when is it a constitutional right to trample on others' constitutional freedom of assembly, i.e. the right to participate in legal commerce on private property (malls) or to interfere in the public transportation system?
    It seems this thief wasn't so petty.

    There is someone trying to get his juvenile criminal records released and have learned from law enforcement there is a second degree murder charge, and that he is linked to the Crips gang.

    When the records are released... then confirmation can be made or not.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

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    Since your location is Canada, I can't even begin to discuss American Constitutional rights vs Canadian rights. Please read our first amendment so as to derive a gist of what Americans are allowed to do.
    I've got a feeling that CJ has more of a grasp on US Constitutional Rights than you do. Or at the very least he understands that you don't have the right to violate other peoples Rights.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Are you not in favor of a person's constitutional rights? I think your sense of right v wrong is severely flawed, now, say something about the protesters shutting down the malls, you know, the topic of the thread?
    Shutting down private property and legal commerce licensed in a community is illegal and not an expression of first amendment rights - do you actually know what the first amendment is about? You don't support freedom of expression, unless it's your expression alone - you actually support freedom from police so you can do whatever the **** you want whenever you want whomever else has to suffer a lack of freedom in the process. You want to exercise your freedom of expression, find a hill in a park and rant and rage against the moon all you want - no one will hassle you.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    It seems this thief wasn't so petty.

    There is someone trying to get his juvenile criminal records released and have learned from law enforcement there is a second degree murder charge, and that he is linked to the Crips gang.

    When the records are released... then confirmation can be made or not.
    Such a role model for blacks in America - perhaps one day there'll be a statue in Washington commemorating the life of Michael Brown.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    From your article: The FBI is assisting in an investigation of the fatal shooting, and the ACLU has urged the police department to change its policies and practices.

    Looks to me like nothing has been fully decided yet. Not to mention its not the police chiefs job to decide if someone goes to trial or not. It's the DA's. What's the DA got to say on this?



    And if you as a protestor prevent me from entering the mall because you chained the doors closed or prevented the train that I own from leaving because you just chained yourself to it? Yeah...you just violated my rights. Which is exactly why those people that were arrested were arrested for.
    I can see your confusion, or delusion concerning protests and cops who kill citizens.

    You believe protests should be illegal, and cops have the right to gun down anybody they perceive as a threat to them.

    Were you around in the 60's to see how the police state treated protesters? Sometimes extreme measures are taken by some protesters to amplify the meaning of the thing they're protesting for. Do you really believe other people would stand up and take notice if extreme measures weren't taken? I believe protesters would likely be ignored if they didn't do something to garner more attention.

    Being arrested for such, chaining yourself to a door, probably falls under disorderly conduct, probably a $100 fine, a small price for a point to be given and taken well. Resisting arrest might be a $200 fine, again, a small price for asserting an opinion and someone taking the point of the demonstration well. Isn't that better than setting things on fire? It's a peaceful protest.

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Such a role model for blacks in America - perhaps one day there'll be a statue in Washington commemorating the life of Michael Brown.
    He should be in the middle giving a gansta pose... flanked by Sharpton, Wright, and Jackson. Obama and Holder should be behind Brown giving him a thumbs up. A... ahem... civil rights version of the statue of the men raising the flag at Iwo Jima. Maybe Obama's son, Trayvon Martin could be included with Brown?
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I can see your confusion, or delusion concerning protests and cops who kill citizens.

    You believe protests should be illegal, and cops have the right to gun down anybody they perceive as a threat to them.
    Considering post #'s 22 and 23 I can't believe you just stated this. I guess it just goes to show that you're not actually reading anything that is said. You're just here to rant about a white cop shooting a black guy. This is just more evidence that you don't care about facts. I'm done with responding to you. Your arguments are weaker than a new born pups legs and have no substance to them.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    All this misplaced angst in the name of a petty criminal and bully who finally met someone not willing to just take his ****. Pathetic.
    Was the policeman's life still in danger when Brown got out of the car and walked away?

    Since you mention the word pathetic for a petty criminal,
    I'd call unloading your gun on a petty criminal who was unarmed pathetic--wouldn't you Canada John ?
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday | Fox News

    Good, this is the next level to raise awareness of how cops have become lawless and brutal themselves.

    Then, a handful of around 15 protesters were arrested, so much for freedom to assemble, now they're trampling on constitutional rights, trying to tamp down peaceful demonstrations, how despicable.
    The arrests don't bother me. Civil disobedience usually utilizes peaceful, but illegal, behavior. Moreover, before protests happen, protest organizers usually determine who will be arrested if it ever comes to that and then they call their lawyers to get them out later. Remember, even Dr. King was jailed.

    I support what the protesters did and I'm sure they knew that arrests were going to be part of it.

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