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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Please, enlighten us on the beliefs Martin Luther King, Jr. This ought to be rich.
    He was a swinger and a communist, and he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, not their skin color.

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    I can't figure out how to respond to this whole thing.

    I mean on the one hand we've got what appears to be a dumb kid on an apparent road to a criminal career, if not already there.
    But at the same time I know what an idiot I was at 18...

    Then we've got what appears to be a cop trying to stay alive, perhaps going a bit too far, will we ever know for sure?

    Than we've got what appears to be long-standing tension between a community and the police who are tasked with protecting it.

    I mean...what the **** is the answer here?
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I can't figure out how to respond to this whole thing.

    I mean on the one hand we've got what appears to be a dumb kid on an apparent road to a criminal career, if not already there.
    But at the same time I know what an idiot I was at 18...

    Then we've got what appears to be a cop trying to stay alive, perhaps going a bit too far, will we ever know for sure?

    Than we've got what appears to be long-standing tension between a community and the police who are tasked with protecting it.

    I mean...what the **** is the answer here?
    I'm in the same boat as you. But here is my answer:

    The people that are defending Michael Brown tooth and nail are assholes. Screw them for saying the cop shouldn't have been scared. What do they know what it's like to be attacked?

    The people that are defending Darren Wilson tooth and nail are assholes. Perhaps in this case you're right. Or perhaps not. But you are an asshole for smearing a dead kid who you don't know. And are you are an asshole for dismissing the unrest, because you don't know what it's like to know that just because of your skin color you'll be treated differently by police. You don't know what it's like to see the guy in Walmart get shot carrying a BB gun, then Mike Brown, and then this 12-year old kid.

    Both sides are filled with people who are either too ignorant or too partisan to see where the other side is coming from.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    He was a swinger and a communist, and he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, not their skin color.
    Yes, that SO tells the right story. He helped to set blacks free. By what means did he do this?
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Yes, that SO tells the right story. He helped to set blacks free. By what means did he do this?
    By supporting republican civil rights bills while dems sic'd dogs on blacks.

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

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    By supporting republican civil rights bills while dems sic'd dogs on blacks.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Thats nice, do you really want to cite LBJ?

    Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963... "These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them ni****s voting Democratic for the next two hundred years".

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Those commie freaks you call them helped get civil rights bills passed and helped put an end to the Vietnam war. Quite good accomplishments. Nothing would ever have been accomplished if citizens just sat on their asses and hoped for something to happen. People took action and demanded change.
    They were responsible for prolonging the war in Vietnam.

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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday | Fox News

    Good, this is the next level to raise awareness of how cops have become lawless and brutal themselves.

    Then, a handful of around 15 protesters were arrested, so much for freedom to assemble, now they're trampling on constitutional rights, trying to tamp down peaceful demonstrations, how despicable.
    This a comment on protests in general, not whether these particular people should have been arrested.

    I am on the left and I do not support violent protest. I support non-violent protest and civil disobedience that is well-targetted. The goal should be to demonstrate that your side is the side that supports freedom, justice and peace for all.

    Intentionally keeping ordinary people from going about their business freely is not non-violent protest. When people are stuck in traffic or on public transportation for a long period of time because protesters have intentionally blocked the streets, it is a form of kidnapping. Residual, unintended effects from a large protest (such as traffic backups) are not immoral, but intentionally causing harm to ordinary people is violence against innocent people. Wasting a significant amount of a person's time is causing harm. Not only is it wrong, it is not helpful for the cause being promoted.

    Looting is even worse, it is nothing but greedy people taking advantage of an opportunity. Most destruction and violence is similar, I have seen who does it, and it is a handful of violent and destructive boys and young men taking advantage of the opportunity to act out their violent desires.

    That said, one should not let the jerks who arrogantly and/or opportunistically highjack a protest distract from the original message of the majority of protesters who are peaceful and respectful of their community.
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    Re: Ferguson protesters shut down malls, trains on Black Friday

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats nice, do you really want to cite LBJ?
    Nice goalpost shift. My link clearly refutes your assertion that the Republicans overwhelmingly carried the Civil Rights Act. No, it was the non-Southern states that did that. Many times we Southerners need help to move forward, and the Civil Rights Act did exactly that.

    Of course, if you want to go there, let's talk about what the two parties stood for before and after desegregation. You are familiar with the Southern Strategy, right?
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