Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

shrubnose said:

Now that you mention it, he does kind of remind me of Barney Fife. :roll:

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Too bad he didn't keep only one bullet in his pocket, like Barney Fife did.

SMTA said:

And he is now a dead thug - problem solved.

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Given time and Wilson might well be joining Brown, time will tell.

sawdust said:

The New York Times and the reporter who published is address needs a good ass whupping.

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I would like to take a look at that NYT reporter.
I noticed at the brief presser when the Prosecutor announced the G.J. finding, the "journalists" who asked the most confrontational (read: stupid) questions were irritating young skulls full of much types with their own agenda.

Declan said:

Perhaps the black community in Ferguson feels that is what they have been experiencing in the form of an institutionalized mob. Who knows. Maybe it will cause cops to think twice before they kill someone whether their authority to use deadly force is worth the price of not trying a different approach.

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Was the different approach used by police sufficient to stop rioting, looting and burning after the press hyped the "hands up, don't shoot" lie? What people feel is largely based on what the media spews out and how their peers seem to react. When one decides that unarmed teen shot by police officer equals obvious misuse of force or decides that black unarmed teen shot by armed white adult equals obvious racism then we have a serious problem. No longer are facts about a specific case needed; just whip out that the evil police and/or evil racist card(s) and start hellping yourself to free stuff from your neighborhood stores as reparations for that feeling of victim of evil that must be aimed at you too.

Sherman123 said:

Couldn't mow lawn. Greatest of civil rights abuses. #tragedy.

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So if I kicked you out of your home...would you call that a civil rights abuse? Because that is what happened to Wilson. He can't live in his home. And he was found innocent.

AJiveMan said:

Exonerated?

Hardly, there still might be a civil lawsuit, where the family may be awarded monetary damages. Sometimes they call it wrongful death.

If that is the definition of being exonerated, I will agree with you.

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Yes, legally he has been exonerated.

Any moron can sue anybody civilly without cause or reason.

stonewall50 said:

Wilson left lawn half mowed, went into hiding


Darren Wilson: Attorneys discuss his time in hiding - CNN.com

This is a joke. The guy cannot live a normal life because he did the RIGHT thing. What a joke. I wish we could prosecute those who posted his address. Even if it was redacted.

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Wilson will never return to cut the other half of the lawn. He may not choose to leave Ferguson, but the city and the PD will choose to relieve him of duty.

Wilson has become a liability. One the city can no longer afford. If he stayed he would be part to lawsuit after lawsuit and the city wants no part. Wilson has cost the city millions and they can not afford anymore.

No municipality or PD will touch wilson with a 10' pole. He is a walking lawsuit.

He doesn't have to leave Ferguson, but he will have to leave.

Texmex said:

Given time and Wilson might well be joining Brown, time will tell.

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Here's hoping, and I'm sure you agree, that Wilson won't forfeit his life for doing his job.

SMTA said:

Yes, legally he has been exonerated.

Any moron can sue anybody civilly without cause or reason.

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Exonerated is used to mean to reverse a determination of law. No bill of indictment. No bill is written on the Bill of Indictment issued by the DA. There is no rule against a second indictment.

But since the DA was not seeking an indictment, either a "No Bill" or "exoneration" is a moot point.

nota bene said:

In a situation such as Wilson's, you don't stop to think twice.

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Amazing, isn't it, that people can sit down and look at several tapes of an incident, interview dozens of witnesses, listen to several experts, then take several weeks to decide what a cop should have done in the couple of seconds he had to make the decision.

nota bene said:

Here's hoping, and I'm sure you agree, that Wilson won't forfeit his life for doing his job.

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I wouldn't support violence against Wilson regardless. Everyone doesn't agree with me however. Wilson will probably be alright though. In a while some other news story will surpass this one and Ferguson will be forgotten like all the rest.

jimbo said:

Amazing, isn't it, that people can sit down and look at several tapes of an incident, interview dozens of witnesses, listen to several experts, then take several weeks to decide what a cop should have done in the couple of seconds he had to make the decision.

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That would be true, IF perhaps the officer only had a seconds to make decisions.

But if the officer made a series of bad decisions spanning minutes that culminated in a one last bad decision;THEN that could be determined in a court of law with two advocate attorneys providing the jury with the facts to make an informed judgement.

upsideguy said:

Once again, someone is drawing conclusions about things one does not know.

First off, the "robbing a convenience store is 1) not correct,as it was not a robbery; 2) irrelevant to the altercation with Wilson and 3) not a crime that gives rise to a death sentence. This item is completely moot and did not give rise to his death.

Second, you have no basis to decide if it is all his fault as you do not know what went on, unless of course you are witness #10. The fact that an unarmed man was killed by a cop should beg the question amongst reasonable thinkers as to whether his death was necessary. Of course, that would something reasonable thinkers. I appreciate the fact that they are many that just don't think too deeply.

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He didn't rob the convenience store? That's what I'm talking aboit. Lying to cover up for Brown doesn't help anyone, especially the black community.

1750Texan said:

That would be true, IF perhaps the officer only had a seconds to make decisions.

But if the officer made a series of bad decisions spanning minutes that culminated in a one last bad decision;THEN that could be determined in a court of law with two advocate attorneys providing the jury with the facts to make an informed judgement.

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So the cop isn't supposed to confront law breakers in black areas? Wow! I had no idea that affermative action extended to following the law.

1750Texan said:

That would be true, IF perhaps the officer only had a seconds to make decisions.

But if the officer made a series of bad decisions spanning minutes that culminated in a one last bad decision;THEN that could be determined in a court of law with two advocate attorneys providing the jury with the facts to make an informed judgement.

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Presumably we are still talking about the Ferguson incident, but no Wilson did not have several minutes to make a decision.

What we do know and most agree on is that Wilson stopped his car to address a couple of kids walking in the middle of the street. Wilson then drove a few feet then realized the description of the location and perps on a BOLO fit the situation where hewas. Wilson then backed up and was attack in his car, getting off one non lethal shot and suffering injuries. We know that because Brown's blood was found in the car and Wilson had injuries consistent with that account. Brown then wandered off, turned, and ran back toward Wilson and got shot for his troubles. All the evidence and the reliable witness accounts point in that direction.

Total time elapsed could not have been more than a minute, unless you believe that Brown and Wilson both stopped for a smoke before proceeding.

The "should have gone to a jury" is just a cop out. The level required in a GJ is far less than the level in a criminal trial. Additionally, there is nothing to stop the prosecutor from proceeding if he thinks the GJ is wrong. The GJ role is largely advisory.

It is amazing to me the lengths that certain people will go to to prove a point they don't have. The short memory people fail to remember the Zimmerman case . The rabble rousers got their way, went to trial, and a few million dollars later the jury decided the original decision was correct. The legal system has worked in both cases. It's just that some people refuse to believe the facts if they fail to prove their beliefs.

None of which has much to do with my original point. That Monday morning quarterbacks can take weeks to decide what a cop should have done in his split second decision.

nota bene said:

Here's hoping, and I'm sure you agree, that Wilson won't forfeit his life for doing his job.

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Let's hope not, that would only widen this tragedy.

Unitedwestand13 said:

freedom of speech is something that can not censured. if one person is censured, everyone is.

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The officer and his family's right to be secure in their person trumps the right of the newspaper to give out his address. Speech that can incite a riot or get people harmed is illegal and not protected as a right.

stonewall50 said:

Wilson left lawn half mowed, went into hiding


Darren Wilson: Attorneys discuss his time in hiding - CNN.com

This is a joke. The guy cannot live a normal life because he did the RIGHT thing. What a joke. I wish we could prosecute those who posted his address. Even if it was redacted.

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Wilson got to escape criminal justice, but it looks like he cannot escape poetic justice. (Inb4 OH MAH GAD PHYS U JUST CONDONED VIOLENSSS!)

Lutherf said:

It'll never happen.

If someone hunted Wilson down and killed him that would just be another week of 24/7 viewership. The media would LOVE that.

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Sadly you are right. Anything for additional viewers, the mainstream media will do, even if it incites violence against fellow human beings.

jimbo said:

Amazing, isn't it, that people can sit down and look at several tapes of an incident, interview dozens of witnesses, listen to several experts, then take several weeks to decide what a cop should have done in the couple of seconds he had to make the decision.

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And is that not EXACTLY how the legal system is SUPPOSED to work??

Phys251 said:

And is that not EXACTLY how the legal system is SUPPOSED to work??

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I don't think my post addressed the legal aspects. I was attempting to make the point that it far easier to sit down, grab an adult beverage, and take all time you need to make a decision than to make a life determining decision in a few seconds at most.

jimbo said:

I don't think my post addressed the legal aspects. I was attempting to make the point that it far easier to sit down, grab an adult beverage, and take all time you need to make a decision than to make a life determining decision in a few seconds at most.

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Do you think there should be some sort of "five-second rule" wherein any course of actions made entirely within that time frame should be immune from legal scrutiny?

Crosscheck said:

I sure didn't think Wilson was that big. So much for my future use to police in describing a suspect. I looked up his height and weight and found other source to say he is 6'4" 210 pounds.

So I was completely wrong in guessing his size. Perhaps it is body posture that just doesn't shout out NFL prospect.

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It has been my experience as a journalist across four provinces that in any 'use of force' issue, the police will present the evidence in a manner favorable to them. I have investigated more than a few, and 97% of complaints of police mistreatment are empty and often exaggerated. However, when its the officers' fault, every measure will be to make those involved appear a victim, stress the "danger" of policing [one of the safest occupations in the world] and 'omit' evidence in their public presentation.

One of the grossest I've ever seen was right here in my city..

Robert Dzieka


The more I hear from this guy and from those in support of him, the more odor I detect. I heard the whole Wilson interview, and he just doesn't ring true to me

US Conservative said:

This wasn't an execution. It was an officer defending his own life (rightly so) from a thug. Its really that simple.

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Its not simple, its actually quite complex. Let's start with the fact that you have no basis to declare him a thug, other than that "thug" has become a euphemism for black man. The question is whether Wilson could have acted differently such that Micheal Brown would be alive today.... alive not only to celebrate Thanksgiving with his family, but alive to tell his story, which has not been told.

Its simple, because to far too many, all inner city black kids are thugs and all white cops are peacekeeping heros. The world has one less thug; must be a good day. Sorry, but life ain't that simple.

upsideguy said:

Its not simple, its actually quite complex. Let's start with the fact that you have no basis to declare him a thug, other than that "thug" has become a euphemism for black man. The question is whether Wilson could have acted differently such that Micheal Brown would be alive today.... alive not only to celebrate Thanksgiving with his family, but alive to tell his story, which has not been told.

Its simple, because to far too many, all inner city black kids are thugs and all white cops are peacekeeping heros. The world has one less thug; must be a good day. Sorry, but life ain't that simple.

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Thugs=criminals. Brown had just assaulted a shop owner, for example. The cop knew a shop had just been robbed by a thug and heres one with tobacco for blunts. Thugs punch cops, and try to steal their guns. He was a thug.

Brown is probably in the best place, from my view. :2wave:

...where is "thug" a euphemism for "black man"? That seems like something suburbanites might think or something.