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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    It seems you feel that is justified? Because he did the right thing. He, in self defense, shot a thug who tried to kill him.
    What does that have to do with him becoming a social pariah?


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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Wilson hasn't cost them anything. Brown has. Wilson was just defending his life, and it's a shame that that thug has now ruined the officer's career.
    You can argue the case ad infinitum, I am looking at the reality of the aftermath. Since Brown is no longer alive, Wilson is the liability. Your guilt and innocence reasoning has no bearing that fact.


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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Presumably we are still talking about the Ferguson incident, but no Wilson did not have several minutes to make a decision.

    What we do know and most agree on is that Wilson stopped his car to address a couple of kids walking in the middle of the street. Wilson then drove a few feet then realized the description of the location and perps on a BOLO fit the situation where hewas. Wilson then backed up and was attack in his car, getting off one non lethal shot and suffering injuries. We know that because Brown's blood was found in the car and Wilson had injuries consistent with that account. Brown then wandered off, turned, and ran back toward Wilson and got shot for his troubles. All the evidence and the reliable witness accounts point in that direction.

    Total time elapsed could not have been more than a minute, unless you believe that Brown and Wilson both stopped for a smoke before proceeding.

    The "should have gone to a jury" is just a cop out. The level required in a GJ is far less than the level in a criminal trial. Additionally, there is nothing to stop the prosecutor from proceeding if he thinks the GJ is wrong. The GJ role is largely advisory.

    It is amazing to me the lengths that certain people will go to to prove a point they don't have. The short memory people fail to remember the Zimmerman case . The rabble rousers got their way, went to trial, and a few million dollars later the jury decided the original decision was correct. The legal system has worked in both cases. It's just that some people refuse to believe the facts if they fail to prove their beliefs.

    None of which has much to do with my original point. That Monday morning quarterbacks can take weeks to decide what a cop should have done in his split second decision.
    Everything you posted was not determined in a court of law with two advocate attorneys determining the voracity of the evidence.

    You can argue your case on an on-line forum all you wish, but that does not take the place of a court of law...sorry


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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Perhaps the black community in Ferguson feels that is what they have been experiencing in the form of an institutionalized mob. Who knows. Maybe it will cause cops to think twice before they kill someone whether their authority to use deadly force is worth the price of not trying a different approach.
    The mob that Ferguson has been suffering under isn't the cops. It's the people burning their city down right now.
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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Everything you posted was not determined in a court of law with two advocate attorneys determining the voracity of the evidence.

    You can argue your case on an on-line forum all you wish, but that does not take the place of a court of law...sorry
    Everything I posted was determined in accordance with the law. The GJ job is to determine whether or not sufficient evidence exists to bring the case to a court.

    In spite of a lower standard of evidence required, the GJ said no. That's the legal process, and it's a good one. You don't get a do over just because you don't like the results.

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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The mob that Ferguson has been suffering under isn't the cops. It's the people burning their city down right now.
    The people burning the city down might have a different opinion about who has been suffering under whom.

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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The people burning the city down might have a different opinion about who has been suffering under whom.
    Your statement is self defeating.

    Do you know who this is?

    deandre-joshua.jpg

    He is DeAndre Joshua, the innocent young black man shot and set on fire by the Ferguson mob as he was trying to go home after work.
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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    99% of rational people would shoot first in order to survive then ask questions. If blacks feel it is their right to attack our police then let them die. They have lived with the mostly white police force since the town was founded, why now are they concerned with it?

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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It does seem that the media in the US gets away with subtly inciting violence. Perhaps one day a brave prosecutor will take up your challenge.
    He can start with Al (not so) Sharpton. He has his own show!
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    Re: Wilson Leaves Lawn Half Mowed

    Quote Originally Posted by IDNeon View Post
    Wilson did the wrong thing.

    The right thing would be to have a trial and actually cross examine the evidence and witnesses.

    Which did not happen.
    Then you don't understand grand juries. Plus, let me ask, if you were in Wilson's shoes, what would you have done?

    You've confronted two guy's on the street, told them to get on the sidewalk, then notice that one of them fits the description of a robbery suspect, snd go back, only to have the big one attack you in your car. He punches you, and fights for your gun and you shoot twice inside your car hitting hin once in the arm. He then takes off, as you exit and give pursuit, because that's your job, and he is now a fleeing felon.

    He gets about 35 to 40 feet away and turns back toward you, taunting you as you order him to stop amd give up. He then starts to rush at you...What do you do?
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