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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    No, they were not formally a legal requirement. That does not mean, however, that that is not the way social instruments work. Marriage was a very good solution for reproduction in times gone by. That it was poorly constructed and not well understood does not mean that it did not have the function. Only that that is the sloppy way of progress. Now it no longer fulfills its function to the absurd point of sterile matrimony, which gay sex implies, it seems silly to have it. And it seems ridiculously childish to want the candy anyway.

    PS: BTW, I revisited the report you mentioned on the costs of gay marriage to society. You do know that it seems to imply that a substantial number of gays act irrationally and marry in spite of the fact that they will lose considerable income. This may or may not occur, but my experience with gay men has been that they tend not to be irrational, which the report to some extent implies.
    Are heterosexuals also irrational for getting married?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If it can be much more efficiently handled by civil contract, why haven't you started that business yet?
    There is a rather lucrative business in marriage contracts. But to cream off the subsidies you need the government stamp. We should just get rid of the government intervention and misplaced subsidies. Subsidize behavior that furthers society and not just signature on a document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) nor did i make that claim i simply pointed out the fact your statement about efficient and civil contract was was wrong
    2.) equal rights is never the wrong direction
    3.) government will always be involved in marriage they are needed to protect the contract
    4.) thats exactly what equal rights is doing, you seemed very confused on this issue
    Oh! I am even more sorry. I didn't realize you adhered to the belief that treating two quite different situations the same amounted to applied equal rights. That is rather sad, you know. You do realize that girls and boys differ and that the results of intercourse are different?

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    There is a rather lucrative business in marriage contracts. But to cream off the subsidies you need the government stamp. We should just get rid of the government intervention and misplaced subsidies. Subsidize behavior that furthers society and not just signature on a document.
    Ahh, so the government product is better.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    In their heart of hearts I suspect most opponents of SSM realize that they lost the culture war and that this fight (and so many other fights) are either over or clearly heading that way. Its typical for the defeated to become angrier as their defeat becomes more apparent. One day it will simply disappear and be reclassified as a sort of bigotry in most of the country.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    All of that can as easily but much more efficiently be handled by civil contract. All we need do is put marriage, where it should be in modern society, namely, in the private sector.
    No it can't. No civil contract or even combination gives all the things recognition of legal spouse does. Marriage is exactly where it should be. It simply needs to be allowed for same sex couples.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ahh, so the government product is better.
    ' Not sure i know, what you mean.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    1.)Oh! I am even more sorry. I didn't realize you adhered to the belief that treating two quite different situations the same amounted to applied equal rights. That is rather sad, you know.
    2.) You do realize that girls and boys differ and that the results of intercourse are different?
    1.) no need to apologize for your mistakes and ignorance of reality, law, rights and facts
    2.) thank you again, by asking this questions you just proved how extremely ignorant you are of the subject of rights, law, and legal marriage.
    intercourse has nothing to do withe legal marriage LOL

    glad I could help educate you, let us know if theres anything else you need to know
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Oh! I am even more sorry. I didn't realize you adhered to the belief that treating two quite different situations the same amounted to applied equal rights. That is rather sad, you know. You do realize that girls and boys differ and that the results of intercourse are different?
    Actually no the results of the vast majority of all intercourse is the same for opposite sex and same sex couples. Very few times does opposite sex intercourse lead to babies.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it can't. No civil contract or even combination gives all the things recognition of legal spouse does. Marriage is exactly where it should be. It simply needs to be allowed for same sex couples.
    - I thought that I had said further up, that there was no good reason to have Matrimony a state run show, as we have pretty much eliminated its characteristics as a public good. The state should only be doing public goods and not private ones. So get it out of the marriage business with all the complicated and messy laws, transfers and regulation. If people want to live together fine. But without the government interfering in any way.

    - And that not withstanding, why should two unequal things be treated as equals? I understand a swindler wanting it thus, but as I understand you, you are not trying to cheat anyone and seem capable of rational thought. So where is the sense?

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