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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    So.

    It has been incorrectly used in 1,000s of cases.
    yes we know you "claim" that lol but you havent been able to back that nonsense up with anything. please do so in your next post, i bet you dodge it again.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    We have had gay marriage in my state for a month now.

    God hasn't smited anyone, the earth hasn't opened up and swallowed anyone, and dogs and cats still don't live in peace.
    Gods timeline isn't ours.

    He waited 40 years before punishing Israel for their mistreatment of a neighboring nation (and a king later). See Chronicles regarding this.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    The ONLY purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that black Americans would have the same rights across the former Confederate states as they had in the rest of the nation.

    Which was why the 14th was passed in conjunction with the 13th & 15th amendments.
    Would it surprise you to learn that the word "race" doesn't appear in the 14th amendment?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Gods timeline isn't ours.

    He waited 40 years before punishing Israel for their mistreatment of a neighboring nation (and a king later). See Chronicles regarding this.
    That just makes God a giant dick, I don't see why anyone thinks this strengthens their argument! 40 years? So two entire generations were born who had no clue what they were being punished for because they weren't alive when it happened? This is the God whose demands I should adhere to?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Would it surprise you to learn that the word "race" doesn't appear in the 14th amendment?
    Doesn't matter.

    Are you denying it was passed due to the events of the Civil War and the freeing of black Americans from slavery?

    Do you really think it was written and passed because

    "We might want to apply it to a presidential election some day or give homosexuals the right to marry"?

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Doesn't matter.

    Are you denying it was passed due to the events of the Civil War and the freeing of black Americans from slavery?

    Do you really think it was written and passed because

    "We might want to apply it to a presidential election some day or give homosexuals the right to marry"?
    Do you really think the constitution only applies to what the people writing it happened to think at that particular moment?

    Presidential election? What are you referring to?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It won't be over until it's taken to SCOTUS and they're finally forced to rule on this. It'll be nice to finally see SCOTUS put this nonstop argument away. It'll be great to hear that religion doesn't have a monopoly on the word marriage.
    It really won't be over until ssm is legal everywhere in the US because in the unlikely but still possible event that the SCOTUS rules that marriage bans do not violate the Constitution, there would almost certainly be more challenges in the future to those bans, just further down the line. However the opposite is not going to be true because a ruling that struck down the bans would lead to having no one with standing to challenge them since they would not exist.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You are right that it is certainly a gay old mob that wants to act as though gay matrimony were the same as matrimony of two sexes. But the gout de jour is irrational and so we will act as though they were the same.
    Considering most of those fighting for same sex couples to get married are heterosexuals, this is an ignorant statement. Plus we aren't talking about matrimony here, which is part of personal marriages, but recognition of a relationship, legal kinship, which is absolutely legally the same as when it involves two people of the opposite sex because spouses are not treated by the law differently in their relation to their gender.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    To prove what? That boys banging boys don't get kids? I think you will find that to be true all around. But Girls and boys, that is another story. That is why matrimony worked so well as a social tool. If you set it up, so that they slept in one bed, there was reproduction. If they had to stay together, that gave the kids security of upbringing. As easy as that.

    Of course, technology has progressed, so that the social instrument no longer works as well as it did. So it would probably be a good idea to drop it altogether. Dis-involving the state in this would seem a good idea. That would put a now mostly useless public good into the private sector, where it belongs.

    PS: That you do not know how legislation works in business was interesting.
    Kids are not nor have they ever been in the US a legal requirement of marriage, and the ability to procreate is more likely to prevent at least some opposite sex couples from getting legally married than the inability to procreate.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Classic misapplication of the 14th Amendment which in no way was related to gay marriage.

    Maybe we should pass an amendment overturning the 14th.
    And such an effort would fail hard.
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