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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Separate Defendants’ fifth rationale—preserving the “purposes and social norms linked to the historical and deeply-rooted meaning of marriage”—also appears to generalize their stated interests in procreation and child rearing. This rationale neither indicates any separate “purposes” for banning same-sex marriage between consenting adults apart from those discussed above nor shows how same sex marriage endangers these unspecified purposes. As a standalone interest, “‘preserving the traditional institution of marriage’ is just a kinder way of describing the State’s moral disapproval of same-sex couples.” Lawrence, 539 U.S. at 601 (Scalia J., dissenting). “Moral disapproval of this group, like a bare desire to harm the group, is an interest that is insufficient to satisfy [even] rational basis review under the Equal Protection Clause,” much less strict scrutiny. Lawrence, 539 U.S. at 582.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What is the 14th amendment related to? And what exactly is your problem with equal protection under the law, other than your disapproval of homosexuality?
    The ONLY purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that black Americans would have the same rights across the former Confederate states as they had in the rest of the nation.

    Which was why the 14th was passed in conjunction with the 13th & 15th amendments.

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    It's good to see gays having rights there with marriage, but it's also sad that many will believe a legal recognition makes a homosexual "marriage" a true marriage or even something good for the individuals. I pray that they may all repent and leave their lives of sin.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    The ONLY purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that black Americans would have the same rights across the former Confederate states as they had in the rest of the nation.

    Which was why the 14th was passed in conjunction with the 13th & 15th amendments.
    Weird, can you point out where it refers to blacks in the 14th?

    and can you explain why it has be referenced in 1000s of cases that doesnt have to do with blacks?

    sorry your statement is factually wrong
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    So sick of hearing about this. It isn't even news anymore. I wish every state would just overturn it, stop acting like their state is somehow going to be different and keep their SSM ban, and move this crap along.
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    I can't wait for the polygamy rulings to start. Wonder if the Mormon church will go back to their old ways.

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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So sick of hearing about this. It isn't even news anymore. I wish every state would just overturn it, stop acting like their state is somehow going to be different and keep their SSM ban, and move this crap along.
    well i disagree about the news part, on an issue like equal rights every little step is news to me and I love hearing about it

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    i agree 100% with you about every state just doing it already. You would think in 2014 the states would just respect equal rights, the 14 and not overstep thier power only to be corrected by the fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangin' Chad View Post
    I can't wait for the polygamy rulings to start. Wonder if the Mormon church will go back to their old ways.
    while id support polygamy as long as it follows the rules of consensual adults thats a totally different issue, theres zero precedence solely from equal rights for gays that loans itself to polygamy.
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    Re: Arkansas, Mississippi overturn gay marriage bans

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    while id support polygamy as long as it follows the rules of consensual adults thats a totally different issue, theres zero precedence solely from equal rights for gays that loans itself to polygamy.
    How is it a 'different issue'. The State can't govern who you marry.....right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangin' Chad View Post
    How is it a 'different issue'. The State can't govern who you marry.....right?
    false, if you knew anythign about this issue its a rights issue and if you read any of the rullings you would know that the state cant violate individual rights HUGE difference

    that state has many powers where it can govern marriage but those powers end at the infringement of individual rights
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