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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Being run over denotes going under the cars tires...
    That's ridiculous:

    Run over - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    : to collide with, knock down, and often drive over <ran over a dog>

    If you want to say she was hit by the car, sure, go ahead. But saying she was run over is just as acceptable.
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No it doesn't. If a car hits someone, and they go under the car but not under the tires, they are considered to have been "run over"
    Show the legal definition of that and you got something...

    She went under *before* the car stopped.
    Only her legs did... "she" did not.
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you're going to argue that not being charged proves the lack of a crime, then none of the protesters are guilty of jaywalking because none of them have been charged
    You aren't paying attention to my actual words. No one has been charged with anything, to the best of my knowledge. A lot of people are committing all sorts of crimes yet no one is being charged with anything. Why the **** aren't the cops doing their job?

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    However, the fact that the police are investigating the vehicular assault strongly suggests that there was a crime committed. After all, how often do the police investigate non-crimes?
    Notice the cops didn't arrest the driver? If he clearly just ran over 2 people as you assert, why wasn't he taken into custody immediately?

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    And since when are the perpetrators of non-crimes described as "suspects"?
    Since always. They call you a 'suspect' so as to avoid a slander suit. Even after you're arrested you're still called 'the accused' and everyone has to say 'allegedly' whenever talking about the act you're charged with, so as to avoid slander. Only after you've been convicted in court can people then say you did do the crime and not be sued for slander.

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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's ridiculous:

    Run over - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    : to collide with, knock down, and often drive over <ran over a dog>

    If you want to say she was hit by the car, sure, go ahead. But saying she was run over is just as acceptable.
    Those all have to work together... they are not independent. One has to collide with, be knocked down by and the driven over by a car. The first two happen but not the third.
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Those all have to work together... they are not independent. One has to collide with, be knocked down by and the driven over by a car. The first two happen but not the third.
    No, they don't. It even says the ****ing word "often". If you want to debate semantics on whether it's okay to run someone down with your car, at least be right about it.

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    Do you know how to read? Have you ever read a definition? This seems like an easy thing to concede, but you're going to keep arguing this point for what?
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's ridiculous:

    Run over - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    : to collide with, knock down, and often drive over <ran over a dog>

    If you want to say she was hit by the car, sure, go ahead. But saying she was run over is just as acceptable.
    Yes, she was hit by the car, but she was also driven over. Your own def says " to collide with, knock down, and often drive over"

    The car collided with her, knocked her down, and drove over her. I don't see anything about the wheels having to go over her.

    And the def doesn't even require that the car "drive over" the person. It says "and often drive over" Don't you realize that "often" means "not always"?
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Show the legal definition of that and you got something...
    "Drove over" is not a legal term; It's a figure of speech


    Only her legs did... "she" did not.
    because her legs belong to someone else.
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's a tacit agreement because if one doesn't yield to the other, results are disastrous. But I don't think you'll find any court who would support intentionally running over pedestrians because they were standing in a road way.
    Yielding is a separate issue.

    Cars have to yield to pedestrians even when pedestrians do not have the right of way. That doesn't mean pedestrians have the right of way. That means cars have to yield to them. That the pedestrian does not have the right of way is exactly the thing which makes their action a crime. If they had the right of way then what they're doing wouldn't be a crime.

    When you say pedestrians always have the right of way, you're saying pedestrians can go wherever they want and it's never a crime. That's not true. In the state this occurred in those pedestrians were jaywalking and obstructing traffic. Those pedestrians did not have the right of way.

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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, she was hit by the car, but she was also driven over. Your own def says " to collide with, knock down, and often drive over"

    The car collided with her, knocked her down, and drove over her. I don't see anything about the wheels having to go over her.
    It doesn't. They are being ridiculous.

    I gotta be honest, I would have never guessed people who be so partisan as to argue that it's okay to run people over because they are in the way and you want through. Moreover, that they would argue that it's not technically being run over unless the tires go over you.

    Holy ****. That's some next level insanity right there.
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    Re: Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You aren't paying attention to my actual words. No one has been charged with anything, to the best of my knowledge. A lot of people are committing all sorts of crimes yet no one is being charged with anything. Why the **** aren't the cops doing their job?
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    Notice the cops didn't arrest the driver? If he clearly just ran over 2 people as you assert, why wasn't he taken into custody immediately?
    Only one person was run over AFAIK, and as far as them not taking him into custody, they're still investigating the crime.

    Since always. They call you a 'suspect' so as to avoid a slander suit. Even after you're arrested you're still called 'the accused' and everyone has to say 'allegedly' whenever talking about the act you're charged with, so as to avoid slander. Only after you've been convicted in court can people then say you did do the crime and not be sued for slander.
    Always? I've never been named the suspect in a non-crime. I don't know anyone who has. To my knowledge, calling someone a suspect in the investigation of a non-crime *never* happens.
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