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Michael Brown's stepfather at rally: 'Burn this bitch down!'

IDNeon said:
I'm so glad to know that stealing $5 of cigars and tickling a cop in the face (if that actually did happen) deserves the death penalty.
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Exaggerated nonsense.
That is not what happened and indicative of a person who does not live in reality.


IDNeon said:
1) Ignore the real issue (cops killing people without punishment or oversight)
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That is not an issue.
Police are and should be allowed to defend themselves from those who have already established their self as a lethal threat, as Brown did by going for the Officers weapon and then charging him after refusing to comply with the Officers orders.


IDNeon said:
2) Ignore the obvious inconsistencies in Wilson's story especially his non-injured face just to justify your Police State.
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There is no inconsistencies, obvious or otherwise.
All you have done is continued to display that your thoughts are not based in reality.


IDNeon said:
Why not just take lethal arms away from cops?
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See.
Like I said. Not based in reality.
 
IDNeon said:
I'm so glad to know that stealing $5 of cigars and tickling a cop in the face (if that actually did happen) deserves the death penalty.

I'll be sure to cite it next time I'm in court for killing someone at the club who looked at me wrong....I felt mortal fear for my life so shot him in the back of the head Judge...it was me or him, so I took him out first.

You .... conservatives, or whatever you Police Statists call yourselves these days:

1) Ignore the real issue (cops killing people without punishment or oversight)
2) Ignore the obvious inconsistencies in Wilson's story especially his non-injured face just to justify your Police State.
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It is not the inconsistencies in Wilson's story that let him go free. It was the inconsistencies in the witnesses stories that allowed him to walk. If the witnesses hadn't lied, or otherwise given false information, Wilson might have actually been indicted. However, we will never know what really happened because of all those false stories. And, if we don't know what happened, then we cannot indict. It's as simple as that.
 
danarhea said:
It is not the inconsistencies in Wilson's story that let him go free. It was the inconsistencies in the witnesses stories that allowed him to walk. If the witnesses hadn't lied, or otherwise given false information, Wilson might have actually been indicted. However, we will never know what really happened because of all those false stories. And, if we don't know what happened, then we cannot indict. It's as simple as that.
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What part about Wilson's face don't you understand?

Your police statist standards has come down to allowing cops to shoot anyone for spitting on a cop.

Pathetic.

While we are on the subject why didn't Ferguson cops defend the 20 plus businesses burned down?
 
IDNeon said:
What part about Wilson's face don't you understand?

Your police statist standards has come down to allowing cops to shoot anyone for spitting on a cop.

Pathetic.

While we are on the subject why didn't Ferguson cops defend the 20 plus businesses burned down?
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Generally speaking, police departments will not risk lives to defend property.
 
IDNeon said:
What part about Wilson's face don't you understand?
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No the question is what do you not understand about it and the effects the injury had on Officer Wilson?
 
IDNeon said:
What part about Wilson's face don't you understand?

Your police statist standards has come down to allowing cops to shoot anyone for spitting on a cop.

Pathetic.

While we are on the subject why didn't Ferguson cops defend the 20 plus businesses burned down?
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:doh:inandout:
 
Jack Hays said:
Generally speaking, police departments will not risk lives to defend property.
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Really? So what would have happened if the rioters set fire to the police precincts?

Use your brain.
 
Excon said:
No the question is what do you not understand about it and the effects the injury had on Officer Wilson?
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Don't dodge the question.

Wilson's face didn't look injured. Therefore his life must not have been threatened.

Maybe a slap to the cheek is enough justification to kill people in your perverted world. ...not ours.
 
Jack Hays said:
No. The police would then be outgunned in every encounter, and criminals would be fearless.
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Yeah cuz every other country where cops DONT have guns see cops just being murdered in the streets and crime ruling the alley ways.
 
IDNeon said:
Really? So what would have happened if the rioters set fire to the police precincts?

Use your brain.
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Since the police stations are never unstaffed, the police would then be defending themselves.
 
IDNeon said:
Yeah cuz every other country where cops DONT have guns see cops just being murdered in the streets and crime ruling the alley ways.
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Those would be countries without our easy access to firearms.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If cops had a way of incapacitating someone non fatally, should we make every attempt to develop such methods?
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The problem with that stuff is that it doesn't incapacitate everyone, isn't as ballistically sound, and isn't as reliable as a gun. Flashbangs hurt the shooter as bad as the shootee by the way. I've felt the concussion of a flash bang. It's not pretty. I agree that cops should non-lethally subdue criminals as much as possible. However, when the threat is not clear, they have to be prepared for the worst.
It startles me how easy people think it is to use that crap. Pepper spray can back fire in that the LEO can get affects of the spray and a small percentage of the population is immune to it. Tasers don't affect someone jacked up on drugs, are constantly subject to legal challenge, and have very limited range. Everything else is either experimental or toes the line of being lethal if even remotely used incorrectly.
 
MarineTpartier said:
The problem with that stuff is that it doesn't incapacitate everyone, isn't as ballistically sound, and isn't as reliable as a gun. Flashbangs hurt the shooter as bad as the shootee by the way. I've felt the concussion of a flash bang. It's not pretty. I agree that cops should non-lethally subdue criminals as much as possible. However, when the threat is not clear, they have to be prepared for the worst.
It startles me how easy people think it is to use that crap. Pepper spray can back fire in that the LEO can get affects of the spray and a small percentage of the population is immune to it. Tasers don't affect someone jacked up on drugs, are constantly subject to legal challenge, and have very limited range. Everything else is either experimental or toes the line of being lethal if even remotely used incorrectly.
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Just play the chorus of willow smiths "whip my hair" on load speakers and anyone would be on their knees begging for mercy.
 
Guy needs to be indicted for inciting violence and destruction.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Guy needs to be indicted for inciting violence and destruction.
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It certainly constitutes a specific threat for a specific audience and a very real possibility of it being acted upon. He was a pejorative away from US hate speech (US hate speech legislation requiring the aforementioned, Euro does not).
 
IDNeon said:
Don't dodge the question.

Wilson's face didn't look injured. Therefore his life must not have been threatened.

Maybe a slap to the cheek is enough justification to kill people in your perverted world. ...not ours.
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You are spewing bs.
1. I was not asked a question. So no dodge. But you were.
2. Nor was your question of "What part about Wilson's face don't you understand?" relevant in context of what you are trying to assert. It is more relevant if asked of you, as I did.
3. Of course his face was injured. So you can stop being dishonest. Surface injury is not always indicative of total injury. Or do you not understand that? And he testified to how the injury effected him. Why do you not understand these things?
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4. He wasn't slapped as you want too dishonestly present, but hit twice with enough force that it caused injury as seen in the above photo and testified to before the GJ.

But way to ignore Brown going for the gun making himself a lethal threat. And the fact that that lethal threat ignored orders and advanced on the Officer which is what caused him to be shot.

You have nothing but dishonesty.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Just play the chorus of willow smiths "whip my hair" on load speakers and anyone would be on their knees begging for mercy.
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Lol. Her version or Jimmy Fallon as Neil Young singing it? That's classic
 
IDNeon said:
What part about Wilson's face don't you understand?

Your police statist standards has come down to allowing cops to shoot anyone for spitting on a cop.

Pathetic.

While we are on the subject why didn't Ferguson cops defend the 20 plus businesses burned down?
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