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    FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    ... were killed by officers?

    On April 18, 2013, 27-year-old Sean Collier, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer, was shot and killed as he sat in his patrol car on campus. His alleged killer: one of the two brothers suspected of carrying out the Boston Marathon bombings three days earlier.

    Collier was one of 27 police officers fatally wounded in the line of duty last year, according to the FBI, which released its annual report on the topic Monday. Forty-nine others died in accidents.

    The bureau compiles a wealth of statistics on law enforcement deaths: The number decreased by 45 percent compared with the 49 officers killed in 2012. The average age of the officer killed last year was 39. All but two were white. Two were black. Two were female.

    Six were killed while making arrests. Five were ambushed. Four were involved in tactical situations. All but one were killed with a firearm. One was struck and killed by a vehicle.

    But there is no reliable data on the number of civilians who are killed by police officers each year, The Postís Wes Lowery reported in September.
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    Obviously, following the Ferguson story the WP has published the statistics of copsí murders. The article states that there is no reliable data on the number of civilians who are killed by police officers each year.
    I tried to find this information on my own, but I didnít manage to find reliable or full statistics on the issue. Still, here are some sites with the info:
    US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11
    Fatal Encounters | A step toward creating an impartial, comprehensive and searchable national database of people killed during interactions with law enforcement
    Anyway, itís undeniable that such information is being hidden from the public, and if you want to get something solid, you need to do a research of your own.
    At the same time, I must say, I understand the people in Ferguson in their outrage, for this is definitely not the first case, and no the last one. Just remember the recent story of the 12-year-old. How many are to follow? Can we stop them? Should we follow the example of Ferguson?

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Disband all PDs and patrol yourself.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Disband all PDs and patrol yourself.


    I personally wouldn't care. The PD has been ****-all use to me for over forty years, and I don't call 911, I call Colt 45.


    But vigilantism has its own problems.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Best I can tell no one, including the FBI, has a statistic on how many people are killed by the Police each year. I've seen reportings of everything from 400 "justifiable homicides by law enforcement" to as many as 500 or more. The main issue for the lack of knowledge is reporting, not every police agency across the nation reports to the FBI when a police officer kills someone. If deemed justified by some other local agency or organization of law then it very well may not be reported to the FBI for their stats on the matter. I would agree that is a problem, but in itself the number does not identify a solution.
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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Disband all PDs and patrol yourself.
    lol.... Yeah, I definitely want my fellow citizens, who have zero training and no accountability, to run around making "Citizens' Arrests" all the time. I'm sure that will produce safer outcomes for all.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
    ... were killed by officers?



    Source

    Obviously, following the Ferguson story the WP has published the statistics of cops’ murders. The article states that there is no reliable data on the number of civilians who are killed by police officers each year.
    I tried to find this information on my own, but I didn’t manage to find reliable or full statistics on the issue. Still, here are some sites with the info:
    US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11
    Fatal Encounters | A step toward creating an impartial, comprehensive and searchable national database of people killed during interactions with law enforcement
    Anyway, it’s undeniable that such information is being hidden from the public, and if you want to get something solid, you need to do a research of your own.
    At the same time, I must say, I understand the people in Ferguson in their outrage, for this is definitely not the first case, and no the last one. Just remember the recent story of the 12-year-old. How many are to follow? Can we stop them? Should we follow the example of Ferguson?
    Sounds like 5,000 fewer **** heads in the world.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like 5,000 fewer **** heads in the world.



    Ah, maybe most... but we KNOW some of these shoots were completely the wrong person or based on faulty perceptions.


    What we don't know is how many, and it is a problem that we don't even know that.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ah, maybe most... but we KNOW some of these shoots were completely the wrong person or based on faulty perceptions.


    What we don't know is how many, and it is a problem that we don't even know that.
    Ok, 4,950 fewer **** heads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    And of those 5,000 killed by police, how many civilians were killed or injured and/or terrorized by them before the police got to them?

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like 5,000 fewer **** heads in the world.
    You've personally reviewed the facts in all 5,000 of these cases? You must be exhausted.
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