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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    I read an article that said that you are 8 times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist... that seems low. I don't see terrorists EVER around here but I see cops a lot.

    Another also stated that around 5,000 civilians were killed by cops. That is 500 more than the 4,500 soldiers killed in Iraq during the same time period. While I know a lot of the civilians are scum bag gangs and such... a lot are innocent people, including children, like the ones shot during no-knock raids to THE WRONG HOUSE.
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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Then tell people that if they are not going to do the job themselves. Quit complaining.
    I'm sorry, but that doesn't make the tiniest bit of sense.

    Saying "you can have abusive cops, or no cops at all" is a false choice. There is no question that we can take many steps to improve police accountability and behavior, including:

    • Assign internal investigations to agencies outside of the police force
    • Require local police departments to report all fatal shootings to a state and/or federal agency
    • Provide body cameras for police

    There is no magic wand that will fix police abuse. That doesn't mean there is absolutely nothing anyone can possibly do to improve accountability.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're calling him out as saying something definitive when he didn't. He, like you, is supposing, theorizing. You're the pot calling the kettle black here.
    Dude, you're adding meaning where there is none. He implied that all 5,000 deserved to die. I called him on it. Apparently you are the president of his fan club coming to his aid. I'm pretty sure that someone who has earned a CIB is perfectly capable of fighting his own battles.
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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I read an article that said that you are 8 times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist... that seems low. I don't see terrorists EVER around here but I see cops a lot.

    Another also stated that around 5,000 civilians were killed by cops. That is 500 more than the 4,500 soldiers killed in Iraq during the same time period. While I know a lot of the civilians are scum bag gangs and such... a lot are innocent people, including children, like the ones shot during no-knock raids to THE WRONG HOUSE.
    And what that article didn't tell you was that you're probably 1000 times more likely to be killed by a another civilian than the police.

    And once again, how many of those 5,000 had taken or destroyed lives before the police killed them. How many were suicide by cop?

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    Dude, you're adding meaning where there is none. He implied that all 5,000 deserved to die. I called him on it. Apparently you are the president of his fan club coming to his aid. I'm pretty sure that someone who has earned a CIB is perfectly capable of fighting his own battles.
    You were rattling on with your own presumptions while attacking what was essentially a toss off comment prefaced by "It looks like".

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    I'm sorry, but that doesn't make the tiniest bit of sense.

    Saying "you can have abusive cops, or no cops at all" is a false choice. There is no question that we can take many steps to improve police accountability and behavior, including:

    • Assign internal investigations to agencies outside of the police force
    • Require local police departments to report all fatal shootings to a state and/or federal agency
    • Provide body cameras for police

    There is no magic wand that will fix police abuse. That doesn't mean there is absolutely nothing anyone can possibly do to improve accountability.
    No matter what cops do, people will find fault.

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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And what that article didn't tell you was that you're probably 1000 times more likely to be killed by a another civilian than the police.
    Depends on where you live... but that is probably close.

    And once again, how many of those 5,000 had taken or destroyed lives before the police killed them. How many were suicide by cop?
    I agree... I acknowledged that in my statement.
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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No matter what cops do, people will find fault.
    I concur, and not all accusations of wrongdoing are true.

    That doesn't mean that all accusations of wrongdoing are false, or that there is nothing we can do at all to improve the situation, or that we have to take officers' testimony at face value.

    I.e. if cops are genuinely abusing citizens, there should be no question that the citizens have a right to complain, and try to address the problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No matter what cops do, people will find fault.
    Cops came to my kids school to train them to be crossing guards... I had nothing but praise for them.
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    Re: FBI reports 27 cops were killed last year. But how many civilians...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Cops came to my kids school to train them to be crossing guards... I had nothing but praise for them.
    Bet some parents were less than happy.

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