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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Yep! Of poor and young black youth.
    Why you being racist?
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

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    Wait...are you sayimg it should be ok to attack law enforcement?
    Absolutely not. But they sure do love to play the victim when they have to. Not in reference to Darren Wilson. Officers have beat people for lack of respect. No crime but lack of respect. Then charge people with assault of an officer after the beating. You may have a badge. But if you disrespect a citizen you should expect to get disrespected back. There is no law against that. The abuse of power is rampant In the black community
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

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    That's it? great answerFurguson Grand Jury Evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Absolutely not. But they sure do love to play the victim when they have to. Not in reference to Darren Wilson. Officers have beat people for lack of respect. No crime but lack of respect. Then charge people with assault of an officer after the beating. You may have a badge. But if you disrespect a citizen you should expect to get disrespected back. There is no law against that. The abuse of power is rampant In the black community
    There are laws against abuse of civil rights. The officers that beat Rodney King were convicted in federal court.
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

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    Why you being racist?
    Yeah that does sound kind of racist my bad

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Yep! Of poor and young black youth.
    Are young black youth somewhat different than old black youth?
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Absolutely not. But they sure do love to play the victim when they have to. Not in reference to Darren Wilson. Officers have beat people for lack of respect. No crime but lack of respect. Then charge people with assault of an officer after the beating. You may have a badge. But if you disrespect a citizen you should expect to get disrespected back. There is no law against that. The abuse of power is rampant In the black community
    Well, you are advocating the public being able to fight with police...I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would say that is ok...In fact, I don't really think that you believe that at all, but instead are just trying to get a rise out of people..
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    No I'm not trying to get a rise out of people. I'm merely stating things that I have seen with my own 2 eyes. I don't know where you live or what you do. But the cops I've seen were mostly arrogant, and seem to think the badge they have on granted them some kind of immunity to behave in a disrespectful way. Maybe where you live the cops that are dispatched are very nice gentleman doing there jobs. But where a lot of blacks live they don't get those gentleman. I have witnessed the type of things over and over that have stuck in my mind. when your shaking someone's hand while a cop happens to be in the area pulls up on you. Maybe drive up on the sidewalk. Not exaggerating. And check to see if you passed the person drugs. searches you. Finds nothing. And then talks to you in a oh well what are you going to do about it tone. People get pissed. People seem to think that cops are professionals 24/7 out of the day. They get mad, they curse, They can be that guy that puts a finger in your face and dares you to touch them. It almost feels like the bully waiting for you after school feel. Unfortunately one of those days you decide you can't take it anymore. Know one is advocating fighting with the police dude. Sometimes your defending yourself wether you can understand that or not.

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    No I'm not trying to get a rise out of people. I'm merely stating things that I have seen with my own 2 eyes. I don't know where you live or what you do. But the cops I've seen were mostly arrogant, and seem to think the badge they have on granted them some kind of immunity to behave in a disrespectful way.
    I have throughout my life lived in a host of places, and even countries for that matter...I have seen policing activities in Europe, as well as growing up in Michigan, to living near Baltimore for 20 years, and now in the south...Cops, are cops where ever you are...While I do agree that there are some with horrible attitudes, and probably shouldn't be in a job like that, the vast majority put up with more crap than you or I would ever put up with...

    Maybe where you live the cops that are dispatched are very nice gentleman doing there jobs. But where a lot of blacks live they don't get those gentleman. I have witnessed the type of things over and over that have stuck in my mind. when your shaking someone's hand while a cop happens to be in the area pulls up on you. Maybe drive up on the sidewalk. Not exaggerating. And check to see if you passed the person drugs. searches you. Finds nothing. And then talks to you in a oh well what are you going to do about it tone. People get pissed.
    You saw this where? Was it a known drug area? What are police supposed to do? Turn a blind eye?

    People seem to think that cops are professionals 24/7 out of the day. They get mad, they curse, They can be that guy that puts a finger in your face and dares you to touch them. It almost feels like the bully waiting for you after school feel.
    There are avenues to pursue complaints against that sort of behavior...Most forces don't want relations like that, it makes their jobs harder...But, I get the feeling that you are injecting your own experiences, and perceptions into what you *think* went on, and relying on that bias to shape what you think happened that day between Officer Wilson, and Michael Brown on the street...Regardless how you feel, it is anecdotal at best, and has nothing to do with the facts of the Brown case....

    Unfortunately one of those days you decide you can't take it anymore.
    This is not excuse to act stupidly, and if you attack a cop, that's pretty damned stupid....

    Know one is advocating fighting with the police dude.
    Yes you were...In your 4th post in this thread you said....

    "If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one."

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1064024830

    Sometimes your defending yourself wether you can understand that or not.
    Initiating a fight with an on duty, uniformed police officer, and trying to take his weapon is in no way self defense, I don't care how you try to spin it....
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Well, your taking my words and seeing what you want to. Bottom line is black people are getting ****ted on. Not just by cops. By this whole so called justice system.

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Well, your taking my words and seeing what you want to. Bottom line is black people are getting ****ted on. Not just by cops. By this whole so called justice system.

    Mostly by other Black people.

    Lets be honest here.

    Their biggest issues do not revolve around what the Police, Society or the white man is doing to them.

    Their biggest issues come from inside their own communities

    Blame is just another way of side stepping responsibility. By blaming everything on something thats " systemic " there's no way to adress the specific issue's that are really causing the problems.

    And so black communities continue to suffer

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