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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Prosecutors do not have a say in grand jury selection. This grand jury of 12 was composed of 7 males and 5 females. 9 were white and 3 were black. A minimum of 9 juror votes is required to reach agreement. It is not the duty of the grand jury to determine guilt or innocence. The grand jury solely determines (via testimony and material evidence) if enough convincing evidentiary material was presented to warrant an indictment for either a singular charge or multiple charges. If so, then the accused is bound over for trial.


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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Read the transcripts of the officers and witnesses. I was a cop at one time in my life, and I'd of shot Brown. Brown was trying to be a bad ass, and it bit him in the ass. From the moment he assaulted Wilson in the car, deadly force was warranted. Most of the witness have indicated Brown was the aggressor throughout the situation. Wilson was obligated to chase and arrest Brown because Brown committed a serious felony, and he was a suspect of an aggravated robbery.
    These cops nowadays are pussies! In the 80s and 90s when gang violence was at its peak, you didn't see cops do this. They would get out the car and whoop your ass if you thought you were tough. Now, these call of duty video game playing ass sissies can't do that because they're simply just weak people. They have professional training to bring down guys bigger than them and they refuse to do so. That's why they get no respect.

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    These cops nowadays are pussies! In the 80s and 90s when gang violence was at its peak, you didn't see cops do this. They would get out the car and whoop your ass if you thought you were tough. Now, these call of duty video game playing ass sissies can't do that because they're simply just weak people. They have professional training to bring down guys bigger than them and they refuse to do so. That's why they get no respect.

    And that's why people failing to give LEO's the respect they deserve for doing an almost impossible job, and attacking them physically, and trying to take their gun, get shot...Have fun with that bravado. It's dumb.
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Prosecutors do not have a say in grand jury selection. This grand jury of 12 was composed of 7 males and 5 females. 9 were white and 3 were black. A minimum of 9 juror votes is required to reach agreement. It is not the duty of the grand jury to determine guilt or innocence. The grand jury solely determines (via testimony and material evidence) if enough convincing evidentiary material was presented to warrant an indictment for either a singular charge or multiple charges. If so, then the accused is bound over for trial.
    Just to add, this grand jury was assembled in May, long before this incident occurred so there can be no claim that they were hand picked to ensure the outcome.

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    These cops nowadays are pussies! In the 80s and 90s when gang violence was at its peak, you didn't see cops do this. They would get out the car and whoop your ass if you thought you were tough. Now, these call of duty video game playing ass sissies can't do that because they're simply just weak people. They have professional training to bring down guys bigger than them and they refuse to do so. That's why they get no respect.
    They get no respect because many of the youth today don't have respect. Don't blame it on cop's playing video games. Blame it on the glorification of violence on TV, video games (Grand Auto Theft), Music, and glorification of a criminal attitude.
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Didn't the right wing echo chamber put forth that his entire eye socket was crushed and broken?
    Ummm...

    I dunno.

    I don't listen to too much partisan news one way or the other so if that's what folks were saying I prolly wouldn't be the guy to ask.

    It wouldn't really surprise me if they did though, right?

    All and still, based on that image and other evidence I've seen since it's been made public, as well as listening to Wilson interviewed in the news, I'm pretty comfortable with the outcome.

    I guess there's a part of me that would have liked to see a trial for political reasons, but if I put myself in the accused shoes (in general, as an alleged whatever, not necessarily under his exact, specific circumstances) I wouldn't want a grand jury indicting me simply for political reasons so I can't really find fault with the way things developed.

    At the end of the day the prosecutor didn't even have to recommend that it go to a grand jury. It looks like, based on the evidence, it would have been perfectly reasonable for the prosecutor to never even have sought the indictment. So I guess letting the grand jury look at the evidence was a sort of "middle ground" approach that cost the taxpayer a little bit of money, but also gave Brown's family the benefit of the doubt.

    I'm not in the camp that claims that police brutality doesn't exist, or that African Americans only get what they deserve, or any of that. But in this case it seems pretty clear that the rioting horde is wrong, that Brown was guilty as sin, and that he earned every last on of the bullets that were fired at him.
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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    They get no respect because many of the youth today don't have respect. Don't blame it on cop's playing video games. Blame it on the glorification of violence on TV, video games (Grand Auto Theft), Music, and glorification of a criminal attitude.
    Still doesn't excuse them from being pussies. If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one. I feared for my life. That's all they have to say. And they get off

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    St.Louis Public radio is making themselves available as a source for the Grand Jury Evidence.




    Evidence released by McCulloch

    The below documents are evidence the grand jury considered that was released by St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch.

    http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/fergu.../evidence.html





    Most of this stuff has been out there since September. That so many stuck to the narrative--white cop shoots upstanding citizen Brown because he was black--is truly amazing.

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Still doesn't excuse them from being pussies. If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one. I feared for my life. That's all they have to say. And they get off
    what evidence was their that the LEO was "over aggressive" in this case?

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    Re: Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

    I'm speaking of all pigs in general. Not just this case.

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