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Furguson Grand Jury Evidence.

poweRob said:
Didn't the right wing echo chamber put forth that his entire eye socket was crushed and broken?
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Ummm...

I dunno.

I don't listen to too much partisan news one way or the other so if that's what folks were saying I prolly wouldn't be the guy to ask.

It wouldn't really surprise me if they did though, right?

All and still, based on that image and other evidence I've seen since it's been made public, as well as listening to Wilson interviewed in the news, I'm pretty comfortable with the outcome.

I guess there's a part of me that would have liked to see a trial for political reasons, but if I put myself in the accused shoes (in general, as an alleged whatever, not necessarily under his exact, specific circumstances) I wouldn't want a grand jury indicting me simply for political reasons so I can't really find fault with the way things developed.

At the end of the day the prosecutor didn't even have to recommend that it go to a grand jury. It looks like, based on the evidence, it would have been perfectly reasonable for the prosecutor to never even have sought the indictment. So I guess letting the grand jury look at the evidence was a sort of "middle ground" approach that cost the taxpayer a little bit of money, but also gave Brown's family the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not in the camp that claims that police brutality doesn't exist, or that African Americans only get what they deserve, or any of that. But in this case it seems pretty clear that the rioting horde is wrong, that Brown was guilty as sin, and that he earned every last on of the bullets that were fired at him.
 
TBone said:
They get no respect because many of the youth today don't have respect. Don't blame it on cop's playing video games. Blame it on the glorification of violence on TV, video games (Grand Auto Theft), Music, and glorification of a criminal attitude.
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Still doesn't excuse them from being ******s. If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one. I feared for my life. That's all they have to say. And they get off
 
Excon said:
St.Louis Public radio is making themselves available as a source for the Grand Jury Evidence.




Evidence released by McCulloch

The below documents are evidence the grand jury considered that was released by St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch.
http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html​




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Most of this stuff has been out there since September. That so many stuck to the narrative--white cop shoots upstanding citizen Brown because he was black--is truly amazing.
 
Rials6 said:
Still doesn't excuse them from being ******s. If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one. I feared for my life. That's all they have to say. And they get off
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what evidence was their that the LEO was "over aggressive" in this case?
 
I'm speaking of all pigs in general. Not just this case.
 
poweRob said:
Didn't the right wing echo chamber put forth that his entire eye socket was crushed and broken?
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No, they said he had an orbital fracture. Depending upon where (right, left, top, bottom) and severity it can be hardly noticeable in photos, especially side shots.
 
Rials6 said:
These cops nowadays are ******s! In the 80s and 90s when gang violence was at its peak, you didn't see cops do this. They would get out the car and whoop your ass if you thought you were tough. Now, these call of duty video game playing ass sissies can't do that because they're simply just weak people. They have professional training to bring down guys bigger than them and they refuse to do so. That's why they get no respect.
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That's absolute nonsense.
 
This is just sad.

Racial bias

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Rials6 said:
I'm speaking of all pigs in general. Not just this case.
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nice respect for LEO, in general.:mrgreen: I don't share your "pig" view.

I suggest you never call 911 if that is your attitude.

Yes, there are a few bad LEO. imo, the majority of LEO are good respectable people.
 
Rials6 said:
only nine of the 12 jurors needed to vote to indict Wilson for the indictment to go through. Well it just so happened to be nine whites and three blacks. Hmmm. Makes you wonder.
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Wonder what? Are you suggesting that if there were 6 more blacks on the GJ that we would have seen a conviction because all blacks think alike? Or is it that the only reason we didn't get a conviction is because there were 9 whites on the jury and all whites think alike?
 
Yep lol! Nine white jurors,Small community. You protect your own. Don't give me that All black people think alike crap. Same line comes up every time something major like this comes up. No! Blacks don't all think a like. But most have something very closely in common. blacks always seem to run into the bad apples on the police force. Always
 
Rials6 said:
Yep lol! Nine white jurors,Small community. You protect your own. Don't give me that All black people think alike crap. Same line comes up every time something major like this comes up. No! Blacks don't all think a like. But most have something very closely in common. blacks always seem to run into the bad apples on the police force. Always
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Do yourself a favor and read Dorian Johnson's testimony - Grand Jury Volume 04

You want to know why "blacks always seem to run into the bad apples on the police force."? The answer is in there.

If your normal day consists of getting up early to "go look for a job and get your girl some breakfast" but you get sidetracked right off the bat because the guy you normally get your blunts from is still asleep so you meet up with a buddy and head to the store where your buddy strong arms the owner and steals a bunch of cigarillos but you hang with him anyway because you're trying to figure out why he did that and then, because you're paranoid about getting busted, you walk down the middle of the street so that traffic has to go around you and then, when a cop tells you to get out of the street, because you're still so paranoid about getting busted for what your buddy did you say "I'm right near my destination" and keep walking in the middle of the street and then when the cop "assaults" your buddy you just stand there taking mental notes and hold the stolen cigars for him you just possibly, maybe, might run into "bad cops" more often than the average person who doesn't do all that ****.
 
That's what mike chose to do. Are you implying that this is the daily routine of all blacks. Because blacks all think alike. Right?

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Are you suggesting that if there were 6 more blacks on the GJ that we would have seen a conviction because all blacks think alike?
 
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Rials6 said:
That's what mike chose to do. Are you implying that this is the daily routine of all blacks. Because blacks all think alike. Right?

Are you suggesting that if there were 6 more blacks on the GJ that we would have seen a conviction because all blacks think alike?
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I'm running off you your quote there, bucko. Or didn't you recognize the very words you typed?
 
Rials6 said:
Still doesn't excuse them from being ******s. If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one. I feared for my life. That's all they have to say. And they get off
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Great generalization. The wimp or *****, is the thug that has to have his boys present to act out. Chances are that if Brown would have been alone, he would not have pulled his bull****.

Hey, you play with fire you get burned. Brown went for the gun and got shot. Any cop, in any era, would have shot Brown, or the cop would be dead.
 
TBone said:
Great generalization. The wimp or *****, is the thug that has to have his boys present to act out. Chances are that if Brown would have been alone, he would not have pulled his bull****.

Hey, you play with fire you get burned. Brown went for the gun and got shot. Any cop, in any era, would have shot Brown, or the cop would be dead.
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Hey, white guys get brave with there boys also. But I never met a wimp that would try and take a police officers gun. Get shot! Run off! And turn around! And bull rush back to get shot again. Boys or no boys.
 
Rials6 said:
Hey, white guys get brave with there boys also. But I never met a wimp that would try and take a police officers gun. Get shot! Run off! And turn around! And bull rush back to get shot again. Boys or no boys.
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To me Thug does not equal black, it equals a street criminal who or whom can be white, black, latino, Asian, etc. You are correct white thugs are brave with their boys, so are Latino thugs, etc.

My point is that most of those that engage in thuggish behavior only do so when their boys are with them. You claimed cops today were ******s, and my retort is that thugs, today and in past, generally are ******s and only act out when they are in the presence of their boys.

I cannot speak to Brown's mentality at the time he acted out, but IMO, he would not have acted out had he been alone.
 
Rials6 said:
only nine of the 12 jurors needed to vote to indict Wilson for the indictment to go through. Well it just so happened to be nine whites and three blacks. Hmmm. Makes you wonder.
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Let me guess, all white folks think alike?
 
Rials6 said:
Still doesn't excuse them from being ******s. If a over aggressive cop can dish out a beating he should be able to take one. I feared for my life. That's all they have to say. And they get off
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Wait...are you sayimg it should be ok to attack law enforcement?
 
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