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shrubnose said:
Who did it give into? :roll:

Read about Ferguson here: Ferguson, Missouri
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Didn't give into anything, The Grand Jury saw the evidence and came to a logical conclusion.
 
Beaudreaux said:
You would prefer that what we saw occur last night, occur during business hours when kids are on the streets, and when people would be in the buildings that were attacked, looted, and burned? Thanksgiving holiday is not like it used to be. Businesses still remain open and there would have been thousands of kids out of school milling around in the streets.

How do you think that would that have turned out? How many dead or injured? The town was going to burn anyway - it was a given based on what had happened before. To do so while the general public was out and about would have been irresponsible for the officials that had to make the decision.

What we should be condemning, are the people that shot guns at others, threw bricks, rocks and bottles at the police, burned police cars and private property.
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They could have stopped it

News organizations said that West Torrance was pretty much left for the rioters.

USE the National Guard instead of stationing them away from the obvious areas that were prone to violence.
 
disneydude said:
In California, defense attorneys don't even know about the impanelment of the grand jury in many cases. They are never allowed to present. Maybe New York does it differently. I've never practiced or lived on the East Coast.
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Instead of going on, just say.. You are right. I didn't know what I was speaking of. Thanks.
 
"As it was said earlier today, and because of the systematic racism that we have in our state government, and our state party, and we do not bring the truth to bear, then we will not recover from what we are going on. What we are experiencing right now, and I have to tell you, this is St. Louis's race war. We didn't have a race war like other cities throughout the this is our race war. country. and people have to be open, and they have to be honest. and they have to earnest, and they have not been earnest for decades. I know people in my own party, in my own government structure who disregard things that we say and how we feel, and we are not going to allow it anymore," she added.
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State Senator: This Is St Louis' Race War


I don't know.... This State Senator seems confused. She's playing the victim while wearing the hat of the oppressor. It seems to me by that part I bolded that she's a co-conspirator...

I think an investigation should be started...
 
disneydude said:
I wasn't surprized by the lack of indictment at all. I've come to expect it. I rarely, if ever, expect an indictment or conviction of a cop because I know what happens.

As for the first part of your post.....eh.....I'm not even going to bother. It was a ridiculous rant on your part. Carry on.
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You are on here arguing the lack of indictment, and then you're here saying a Brown would have been indicted in 5 minutes if he shot Wilson. Now you're claiming you weren't surprised by the lack of indictment against the police officer, and you still haven't said exactly why you posted something that - if you're really an attorney - you know is a complete fabrication.

Pick a story and stick with it. This is tiresome.
 
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Fenton said:
" Optics " doesn't justify the crime of inciting a riot.

He should been in jail right now or out on bail
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The point of my post is that I agree with you, but I also know they're not going to do it because it would look bad and having the courage of one's convictions is not a common trait in elected officials, in part because it is not often rewarded.
 
JayDubya said:
The point of my post is that I agree with you, but I also know they're not going to do it because it would look bad and having the courage of one's convictions is not a common trait in elected officials, in part because it is not often rewarded.
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Yea, I hear you.

Brown's Stepfather actively called for the victimization of innocent Ferguson residents. His neighbors.

It just seriously got under my skin.
 
tres borrachos said:
You are on here arguing the lack of indictment, and then you're here saying a Brown would have been indicted in 5 minutes if he shot Wilson. Now you're claiming you weren't surprised by the lack of indictment against the police officer, and you still haven't said exactly why you posted something that - if you're really an attorney - you know is a complete fabrication.

Pick a story and stick with it. This is tiresome.
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It takes reading comprehension. I've never said I was surprized by the lack of an indictment. Nevertheless I find it disheartening that juries and grand jurors almost always give cops a pass. There is nothing inconsistent in those two statements.
As for the "5 minute" claim....that is a figure of speech....meaning they would be quick to return an indictment /convict. You gave an example where it took months.....ok....one example. They nevertheless returned an indictment.

I'm working on a case right now where the DA presented its case over 5 weeks and the jury returned an indictment in 15 minutes. It didn't involve a cop.....BTW.....
 
disneydude said:
Believe what you want. I know the facts. I've been a practicing attorney in Los Angeles for over 20 years.
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Dude, you don't even understand probable cause. I know more about lawyer'n than you do...lol!
 
disneydude said:
It takes reading comprehension. I've never said I was surprized by the lack of an indictment. Nevertheless I find it disheartening that juries and grand jurors almost always give cops a pass. There is nothing inconsistent in those two statements.
As for the "5 minute" claim....that is a figure of speech....meaning they would be quick to return an indictment /convict. You gave an example where it took months.....ok....one example. They nevertheless returned an indictment.

I'm working on a case right now where the DA presented its case over 5 weeks and the jury returned an indictment in 15 minutes. It didn't involve a cop.....BTW.....
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Just stop. Quote someone else. I can't read your nonsense anymore.
 
apdst said:
Dude, you don't even understand probable cause. I know more about lawyer'n than you do...lol!
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What do you think probable cause is? Proof beyond a reasonable doubt? That is a trial standard of proof.
 
disneydude said:
I think you should have written "I can't read". That would be more accurate.
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No, because I can read.

You said earlier in this thread that "clearly" Wilson had no reason to use excessive force. Then you ramble around and complain, and make up crap about grand juries, and now here you are saying you're not surprised by the indictment. You haven't said why it was wrong, just whining about cops protecting each other.

IF you were an attorney you would understand why charges are brought. IF you were an attorney you would have coherent posts about the evidence presented which as an attorney you would have read through by now and given your legal opinion and not make posts that are lies but you say are simply a "figure of speech".

None of what you have posted rings true in any way. None.
 
disneydude said:
What do you think probable cause is? Proof beyond a reasonable doubt? That is a trial standard of proof.
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Ya know, you might want to look stuff up rather defining them yourself, on the fly.
 
apdst said:
Dude, you don't even understand probable cause. I know more about lawyer'n than you do...lol!
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Unless I missed an earlier one, this appears to be his first post in this thread:

disneydude said:
Once again a thug gets away with murder because he carries a badge. I'm tired of jurors letting these murderers walk. The video was clear.
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A "thug"? Gets away with "murder"? Tired of "jurors letting these murderers walk"?

Are those the words of a 20 year trial lawyer? Nope.

He even refers to a "video" that doesn't even exist.
 
tres borrachos said:
WTF??? Race war?
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I really find the rhetoric sort of disturbing even if I also find it meaningless.

They wanna go to war? We can take them there.

66.6% of America is White(Non-Hispanic)
197,816,000

13.6% of America is Black
42,020,743

A difference of 155,795,257 more White people than Black people

Do they really wanna go there?

I don't think so.
 
ChezC3 said:
I really find the rhetoric sort of disturbing even if I also find it meaningless.

They wanna go to war? We can take them there.

66.6% of America is White(Non-Hispanic)
197,816,000

13.6% of America is Black
42,020,743

A difference of 155,795,257 more White people than Black people

Do they really wanna go there?

I don't think so.
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The words alone are not only scary, they're downright threatening. And the fact that they are coming from a lawmaker makes them even scarier.

Race war. Holy mother of doG.
 
tres borrachos said:
The words alone are not only scary, they're downright threatening. And the fact that they are coming from a lawmaker makes them even scarier.

Race war. Holy mother of doG.
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Shows you how comfortable some people are with that kind of language and how pervasive the thought, eh?
 
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