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The remarkable thing about the statement is how ill informed it is. We actually do not know how to handle crowds so very well. When they are on the cusp between demonstration and revolt our society forbids the use of the instruments necessary to prevent pillage and looting. We then have no effective means of protecting the citizens and their property.
 
Who survived that confrontation?

Wilson killed a Black teenager that he was afraid of.

That's exactly what happened.

Wilson couldn't control the situation without killing that Black teenager.

That's a fact.

And it's mighty sad. I predict that we'll hear more about this.

All personal opinion devoid of fact, as usual.
 
I am so sick of this story. What a bunch of nonsense
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As I said before, this is almost nothing to do with the cop or the unfortunate dead victim (almost no one who is freaking out knew either of them).

This is about poverty and America's obsession with 'race'.

You mean the Democrats/Liberal's obsession with race... This is money in the bank for them for years to come.

Big thanks to you Rev. Al for doing your part to make last night such a success.
 
Wilson said that Brown hit him twice in the face, leading him to be afraid that a third punch “could be fatal.”
ferguson cop the day after the shooting getting his face punched twice.jpg
face of the cop immediately after the shooting, fearful that the next punch to this face might have been fatal
hmmmm
now, the 18 year old just got shot in the hand during the tussle at the police SUV. he runs away
and the next thing he does as an unarmed shooting victim is charge the shooter who he knows to have a gun and is willing to use it?
does that make sense?
 
Who survived that confrontation?

Wilson killed a Black teenager that he was afraid of.

That's exactly what happened.

Wilson couldn't control the situation without killing that Black teenager.

That's a fact.

And it's mighty sad. I predict that we'll hear more about this.

You've made some poor assumptions.

Here is what we actually know. Brown was a disturbed teenager. He was big. He was a bully. We know this because we have seen tape of his strong armed robbery and his treatment of the smaller clerk.

Brown had no respect for authority and particularly the law. We know this because he was walking down the middle of the street after the robbery and when confronted by Wilson chose to fight Wilson in his car and tried to get his weapon. We know this because Wilsons face was battered and his gun went off in the car, leaving Browns blood inside the car.

We know that as a policeman, after the confrontation, Wilson had two obligations, The first was to call for back up. I don't know if he did that. The second was to try to apprehend the person who just assaulted a police officer.

We established the fact that Brown was a large man. much larger than Wilson. In pursuit, Wilson had the responsibility and authority to protect himself. Brown had already tried to get the gun during the fight in the car. If Brown turned and started to charge at Wilson, Wilson should have shot him. Every time a police officer pulls a weapon, it's not a threat. If they point it, they intend to pull the trigger. Brown could have saved his life by not being the aggressor.
 
You demanded Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson speak out against Black on Black Violence and when given proof that they have you turn around and continue shouting of Partisan talking points? You do realize Ferguson and the ensuing riots isn't, and shouldn't be treated like a left/right issue?

That Sharpton, Jackson or any of the other race baiters have spoken out on black-on-black crime with regularity and force is laughable. That's not their interest, never has been and never will be. It's not their legacy by a million miles.

The Ferguson Riots should be treated with truth and a root cause for this criminal activity located and discussed.

It is located in the race baiting of the likes of Obama's mentors Wright & Farrakhan, of Jackson & Sharpton, of Obama and Holder.

It is a Leftists issue as most blacks are Demokrats, and most rioters are black, and have been fed race baiting BS by THE VILES listed above.

What was it that Rodney King stated years ago... "Can we all get along"?
For some folks their business is to not allow this to happen... THE VILES.
 
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I am so sick of this story. What a bunch of nonsense
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As I said before, this is almost nothing to do with the cop or the unfortunate dead victim (almost no one who is freaking out knew either of them).

This is about poverty and America's obsession with 'race'.

This verdict is almost nothing but an excuse for people that were angry long before this shooting ever happened, to vent their anger.


My solution to all this (long term)?

Fix the economy by getting the government and the Fed out of the way and let American 'free enterprise' fix the problem long term AND many 'blacks' have to stop self-segregating and fully integrate into 'white' mainstream America...whether they or 'whites' want them to.

If 'blacks' that are poor are incredibly naive enough to think that the government will fix their problems with more welfare and affirmative action programs and the like...forget it.
You have to get out of the slums and do it for yourselves. And not through sports or music (that only will work for a tiny minority), through hard work, imagination and perseverance.

I truly regret that poor 'blacks' find themselves in bad economic situations...but whining about it or rioting won't help your situation. Positive action and a little bravery will.

Stop whining and start doing.


And to 'white' America? Stop being so damned racist.

I have travelled to many first world countries and Americans (on average) are by FAR the most racist bunch I have ever come across. The average American just won't shut up about skin color.
Take Canada, they have racism. But I guarantee you it is a HECK of a lot easier for a poor 'black' Canadian to integrate with mainstream Canadain society then it is for a poor 'black' American to do likewise. Not because they have more government 'race' programs (as far as I know, they have none)...but because most Canadians don't judge people NEARLY as much on the color (or colour) of their skin as average Americans do.

Stop looking at people as 'races' and just look at them as people.

Maybe if most average, 'white' Americans (and the 'white' dominated media) stopped thinking of 'black' Americans as a different 'race' and just looked upon them as Americans, 'blacks' would find it easier to fully integrate into 'white' society.

Almost a perfect post, but believe me, Europe is more racist than America. From Stockholm to Naples, you don't have racist chants at sporting events... and that the great message of FIFA is Say No to Racism reveals the depth of the problem. That simply isn't tolerated in the US.

Extrapolate that through society... the problem is greater in the EU than the US... nonetheless, I'll "like" your post for it's mostly spot on.

There are racists, on both sides... I wouldn't put the onus on whites being racist... there are some surely, but the bigger problem is the vile race baiters leading the blacks. They are poison.

There is racism everywhere... and it will never go away... but America has made massive leaps since the 50's, but some folks simply can't let go. They depend on that 90% following and to hell with society at large.
 
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face of the cop immediately after the shooting, fearful that the next punch to this face might have been fatal
hmmmm
now, the 18 year old just got shot in the hand during the tussle at the police SUV. he runs away
and the next thing he does as an unarmed shooting victim is charge the shooter who he knows to have a gun and is willing to use it?
does that make sense?

Why dont you show the lateral view where the bruising on his jaw can be seen?
You are attempting to assign rational thought to an irrational act, good luck with that.
 
Why dont you show the lateral view where the bruising on his jaw can be seen?
You are attempting to assign rational thought to an irrational act, good luck with that.

you show it to us
PLEASE!
i want to see a face that tells us he had reasonable reason to believe the next blow to it could have been fatal
so, please do show us that photo
ferguson cop the day after the shooting getting his face punched twice.jpg
this is all that i have. show us the photo you insist will exculpate the shooter
 
Almost a perfect post, but believe me, Europe is more racist than America. From Stockholm to Naples, you don't have racist chants at sporting events... and that the great message of FIFA is Say No to Racism reveals the depth of the problem. That simply isn't tolerated in the US.

Extrapolate that through society... the problem is greater in the EU than the US... nonetheless, I'll "like" your post for it's mostly spot on.

There are racists, on both sides... I wouldn't put the onus on whites being racist... there are some surely, but the bigger problem is the vile race baiters leading the blacks. They are poison.

There is racism everywhere... and it will never go away... but America has made massive leaps since the 50's, but some folks simply can't let go. They depend on that 90% following and to hell with society at large.

I appreciate the compliment, but I have to disagree a little.

I think you are right that Europe is more prejudiced then America - i.e. their poor seem to have a more open hatred for people that are 'different' (skin color, religion, you name it). But I think when it comes to 'blacks' specifically - I think America is more judgemental and prejudicial then Europe. That is how I see it anyway.
It's not that average, white Americans hate 'blacks' - I doubt they do. But they still think of them as 'them' instead of 'us'. Americans have to get past that if they ever want their 'race' problems to be reduced to a reasonable level.
And I think once there is more integration, that misconception will fall away.


As for racism going on for ever? In our lifetimes, sure.

But eventually (hopefully) there will be so much integration that the 'pure races' will virtually disappear...almost everyone will be a mutt. I look forward to that day (even though I will be long dead when it comes).

Though, humans will just find some other reason to be prejudiced, I am afraid. Heck, in Japan, there is actually judgements about blood type. :roll:

The importance of blood type in Japanese culture ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion
 
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you show it to us
PLEASE!
i want to see a face that tells us he had reasonable reason to believe the next blow to it could have been fatal
so, please do show us that photo
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this is all that i have. show us the photo you insist will exculpate the shooter

No-the photos are out there, taken at the same time as this-im not going to spoon feed you while you tap dance. But thats not the real issue here.

WHY would you post the view that shows no injury when there are others out there that do? Are you trying to misrepresent here?

I think we know the answer to this. Brown was a thug who attacked a cop and then tried to shoot him with the cops own gun. Brown had just assaulted a store clerk (who's store was looted tonight) and then robbed him. Brown charged the cop according to black witnesses in the grand jury.

Why can't you accept the truth? Why are you willing to deceive yourself and others over a false narrative?
 
I appreciate the compliment, but I have to disagree a little.

I think you are right that Europe is more prejudiced then America - i.e. their poor seem to have a more open hatred for people that are 'different' (skin color, religion, you name it). But I think when it comes to 'blacks' specifically - I think America is more judgemental and prejudicial then Europe. That is how I see it anyway.
It's not that average, white Americans hate 'blacks' - I doubt they do. But they still think of them as 'them' instead of 'us'. Americans have to get past that if they ever want their 'race' problems to be reduced to a reasonable level.
And I think once there is more integration, that misconception will fall away.


As for racism going on for ever? In our lifetimes, sure.

But eventually (hopefully) there will be so much integration that the 'pure races' will virtually disappear...almost everyone will be a mutt. I look forward to that day (even though I will be long dead when it comes).

Though, humans will just find some other reason to be prejudiced, I am afraid. Heck, in Japan, there is actually judgements about blood type. :roll:

The importance of blood type in Japanese culture ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

Also, blacks in america aren't the same as muslims in europe. Muslims in europe have never had and don't want to adopt european values and integrate. In fact, they want to force europeans to live by their ways, reducing europe from the prosperous place that it is, into what the ME is basically.

So basically, you're in favor of genocide? Let's wipe out all the races and replace it with one singular race.

I love you people. "progressives". It would take a truly progressive mind to desire genocide as a solution to racial problems.
 
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Also, blacks in america aren't the same as muslims in europe. Muslims in europe have never had and don't want to adopt european values and integrate. In fact, they want to force europeans to live by their ways, reducing europe from the prosperous place that it is, into what the ME is basically.

So basically, you're in favor of genocide? Let's wipe out all the races and replace it with one singular race.

I love you people. "progressives". It would take a truly progressive mind to desire genocide as a solution to racial problems.
That's true... Many Muslims in the EU have no intention to integrate, but to dominate.

Recently there were Sharia Police in the Ruhr Pot, identifiable with vests stating so. Their job was to help bring the local Muslims back to the 7th century.
 
you show it to us
PLEASE!
i want to see a face that tells us he had reasonable reason to believe the next blow to it could have been fatal
so, please do show us that photo
View attachment 67176372
this is all that i have. show us the photo you insist will exculpate the shooter

Proportional response is not the standard. Police carry weapons and it's their duty to protect themselves harm and keep their weapon in control at all times. The standard is not, you busted my lip so I give you a black eye. The standard is obey the law and don't assault a cop.
 
I appreciate the compliment, but I have to disagree a little.

I think you are right that Europe is more prejudiced then America - i.e. their poor seem to have a more open hatred for people that are 'different' (skin color, religion, you name it). But I think when it comes to 'blacks' specifically - I think America is more judgemental and prejudicial then Europe. That is how I see it anyway.
Nope... and this goes beyond the general public and to the police.

I was on a train in Köln (about 15-years ago), about to get off and there was a black/brown guy who asked if I could change some money. We started talking and I said something along the lines of, you must like it in Germany. He said, no, not really. I get harassed by the cops everywhere, but of all the cities, Köln is the best. Needless to say, I was a little dumbfounded.


It's not that average, white Americans hate 'blacks' - I doubt they do. But they still think of them as 'them' instead of 'us'. Americans have to get past that if they ever want their 'race' problems to be reduced to a reasonable level.
I don't think it's a them vs. us.
White America would like nothing more than to... move on. The race baiters have no intention of letting that happen.
And Obama, the Great Uniter... has only made things worse.
 
Always playing the victim, aren't you?

For shame.

If it was my city I would let it burn.

You might want to cool those emotional jets, as usual - your judgement is severely clouded.
Perhaps the business owners who lost thir livelyhood to these thugs could finish the job by going back today and burning down the projects. And perhaps emergency services could refuse to do anything about it.
 
Perhaps the business owners who lost thir livelyhood to these thugs could finish the job by going back today and burning down the projects. And perhaps emergency services could refuse to do anything about it.

I wouldn't want this, but I appreciate your point.
 
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The prosecutor has no control over the composition of the grand jury. The Ferguson MO grand jury of twelve was composed of 7 men and 5 women of various socioeconomic background. All are from the St. Louis area. 9 are white and 3 are black. 9 grand jury votes constitutes agreement for case disposition. It would be interesting to know the total vote to dismiss and how jurors voted by gender and race.

The Grand Jury was convened and sworn in some time before the shooting even took place. They just sit and wait for something to debate on, and unfortunately for them, they got this case.

It would be interesting to know the vote breakdown but the GJ is one of the most secretive processes in our justice system so we'll never know. Of course, as many times as the Prosecutor said that last night it didn't stop the idiots in the audience from asking him repeatedly. That guy really held himself together. I'm sure he was thinking "You can keep asking me the question 10 times and you'll get the same answer, assclown".
 
Fascinating night last night. My thoughts:

1. Props to that prosecutor. He was articulate and had to suffer through the painfully idiotic questions from the audience.
2. It sounds like quite a few "witnesses" lied. Eye witnesses lie and can be prejudiced. Evidence can't.
3. The display in Ferguson after the announcement was pure, unadulterated filth.
4. Darren Wilson needs to move himself and his family to another country for his own safety.
5. It sounds like justice was done.
 
The Grand Jury was convened and sworn in some time before the shooting even took place. They just sit and wait for something to debate on, and unfortunately for them, they got this case.

It would be interesting to know the vote breakdown but the GJ is one of the most secretive processes in our justice system so we'll never know. Of course, as many times as the Prosecutor said that last night it didn't stop the idiots in the audience from asking him repeatedly. That guy really held himself together. I'm sure he was thinking "You can keep asking me the question 10 times and you'll get the same answer, assclown".

I think it's also worth pointing out that the demographics of the St. Louis metropolitan area is 76.9% White and 18.1% African American. Therefore with a grand jury that was 9 white and 3 black, it perfectly represented the demographics of the region.
 
I think it's also worth pointing out that the demographics of the St. Louis metropolitan area is 76.9% White and 18.1% African American. Therefore with a grand jury that was 9 white and 3 black, it perfectly represented the demographics of the region.

That kind of shows the tail wagging the dog, eh?
 
Why are there riots happening---- are the protesters just pretend followers of Jesus? by their actions--prove it all. God promised---Vengenance is mine said the Lord--so any real follower of Jesus knows justice will occur. thus 0 need for riots---- pretend followers need riots.
 
I think it's also worth pointing out that the demographics of the St. Louis metropolitan area is 76.9% White and 18.1% African American. Therefore with a grand jury that was 9 white and 3 black, it perfectly represented the demographics of the region.

Excellent point SD.
 
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