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Hatuey said:
Funny, that has nothing to do with what I asked. Here it is again: Can you show us an orbital blowout fracture which came as a result of violence? Do you realize that a textbook image of what an orbital blowout fracture looks like doesn't establish its cause, correct?
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I did you the courtesy of allowing you to learn a bit and you disregarded it. Read the damn page. It deals with management, but you'll see there aren't any causes of orbital blowout fracture but violence.
 
APACHERAT said:
That's because the jury were made up of stupid people and DNA was to complicated for them to understand.
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TRANSLATION: "The jury didn't rule they way I wanted it to."
 
Bottom line...gj came out with the correct decision imho.
 
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X Factor said:
Indeed I do see the contradiction in suggesting that prosecutors cannot be trusted to present a case fairly to a grand jury while at the same time saying they shouldn't have to go to a grand jury in the first place.
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The GJ process is just another level of protection for the accused.

No prosecutor is going to present a case without merit at any level in the system.
 
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SMTA said:
The GJ process is just another level of protection for the accused.

No prosecutor is going to present a case without merit at any level in the system.
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Not true. Presenting it to a grand jury knowing it will not issue a true bill is a politically convenient way to close a case and shift the decision onto anonymous people for political reasons.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
they are burning down the Little Caesars. oh the humanity
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I bet the area smells like good pizza now.
 
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NIMBY said:
No one needs to have extensive training to know the difference between night and day.
The extent of this riot is on the prosecutor.

Yet you can see better at night than during the day?
When business-owners could have protected their own property better when?

Just to have an argument in order to defend the prosecutor's piss-poor decision to release this decision late at night .
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The grand jury decision should have been announced right after it was reached. The officer himself and everyone else had a right to know.

Exactly none of this is the prosecutor's flaw whatsoever regardless of when or how it was announced. You'll have to find someone else to blame ...

hey, here's a thought... blame the looters, arsonists, vandals, and thieves.
 
Black Dog said:
OH SNAP! :shock:
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Yeah, SMTA really jumped the shark on that. I stated right wing ideology uses the fact that cops aren't there to protect people as pro-gun statement, and then he claims I'm wrong and I show a post of his expressing that very argument. That somehow makes me anti-gun? Lol.
 
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Declan said:
Not true. Presenting it to a grand jury knowing it will not issue a true bill is a politically convenient way to close a case and shift the decision onto anonymous people for political reasons.
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Interesting!

I agree with your observation.

/Respect
 
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Phys251 said:
It was not the civilians who poured the metaphorical gasoline onto this situation.

Let me ask you this: Were it not for our sensationalist national media, who is no doubt covering this live right now with their pro-fear rhetoric, and in the case of Fox "News," Right-Wing rhetoric as well, could you honestly say that the overall civilian reaction would have been exactly the same?
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Are you saying the "civilians" as you call them, are not capable of thinking for themselves?

Considering who is doing the rioting, that is pretty racist.
 
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joko104 said:
The jury verdict should have been announced right after it was reached and stated in Court like in any case.
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Uh Joko, this was a Grand Jury, not a trial jury.
 
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Mason66 said:
I bet the area smells like good pizza now.
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Ouch!

Burning Little Caesars reference.
 
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clownboy said:
Uh Joko, this was a Grand Jury, not a trial jury.
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I had already edit corrected that, but you are correct.
 
Hatuey said:
Yeah, SMTA really jumped the shark on that. I stated right wing ideology uses the fact that cops aren't there to protect people as pro-gun statement, and then he claims I'm wrong and I show a post of his expressing that very argument. That somehow makes me anti-gun? Lol.
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Nice, snooker the one fellow who didn't follow the exchange to think he's right on in praising you. You seemed to have forgotten your ridiculous gun comment was addressed to me and my post which busted your little hate rant on the cops. SMTA wasn't part of the exchange at that point. Good work!
 
clownboy said:
Nice, snooker the one fellow who didn't follow the exchange to think he's right on in praising you. You seemed to have forgotten your ridiculous gun comment was addressed to me and my post which busted you little hate rant on the cops.
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Boom!
 
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SMTA said:
The GJ process is just another level of protection for the accused.

No prosecutor is going to present a case without merit at any level in the system.
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Thank you. It's frustrating when people speak about the legal system when they clearly don't understand it. The Grand Jury is a way to have non prosecutors review cases before they can even get into a court. It funny now to see it argued as a way for prosecutors to abuse the system. Incidentally, this notion that prosecutors can get a ham sandwich indicted is false and simply comes from the fact that most cases are true billed. What people don't get is that that's largely because many case are declined for prosecution because the prosecutor knows that they cannot articulate probable cause for the GJ. In other words, the GJ serves its purpose even in regards to the cases it doesn't even ever hear.
 
clownboy said:
Nice, snooker the one fellow who didn't follow the exchange to think he's right on in praising you. You seemed to have forgotten your ridiculous gun comment was addressed to me and my post which busted you little hate rant on the cops.
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My ridiculous gun comment? Which one? The one where cops not being there to protect people is a constant right wing argument against gun control.... and now all of the sudden, they're protectors of our lives? That's a pretty true statement and not ridiculous at all. If you are, please point out the flaws but before you do tell us, do cops have a responsibility to protect someone from harm?
 
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X Factor said:
Thank you. It's frustrating when people speak about the legal system when they clearly don't understand it. The Grand Jury is a way to have non prosecutors review cases before they can even get into a court. It funny now to see it argued as a way for prosecutors to abuse the system. Incidentally, this notion that prosecutors can get a ham sandwich indicted is false and simply comes from the fact that most cases are true billed. What people don't get is that that's largely because many case are declined for prosecution because the prosecutor knows that they cannot articulate probable cause for the GJ. In other words, the GJ serves its purpose even in regards to the cases it doesn't even ever hear.
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No problem.

GJ is really interesting to be on.

In the ones I have been on, we were hearing 10 or so cases a day.

One learns a lot.
 
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