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It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did | FiveThirtyEight

"According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them."

That's a 99.9932% indictment rate. Think on that for a moment.

"legal experts agree that, at any level, it is extremely rare for prosecutors to fail to win an indictment.

“If the prosecutor wants an indictment and doesn’t get one, something has gone horribly wrong,” said Andrew D. Leipold, a University of Illinois law professor who has written critically about grand juries. “It just doesn’t happen.”

Cases involving police shootings, however, appear to be an exception. As my colleague Reuben Fischer-Baum has written, we don’t have good data on officer-involved killings. But newspaper accounts suggest, grand juries frequently decline to indict law-enforcement officials. A recent Houston Chronicle investigation found that “police have been nearly immune from criminal charges in shootings” in Houston and other large cities in recent years. In Harris County, Texas, for example, grand juries haven’t indicted a Houston police officer since 2004; in Dallas, grand juries reviewed 81 shootings between 2008 and 2012 and returned just one indictment.
 
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Hell, CNN, Fox "News," and probably MSNBC have been stoking this for weeks. Why should they be surprised that it's happening?

Are you saying that it's the Media's fault for looting, vandalism and shots being fired at police?
 
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Are you saying that it's the Media's fault for looting, vandalism and shots being fired at police?

Partially, yes. And good job on conveniently ignoring the police's role in this.
 
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MSNBC is blaming the police for encouraging the looting. Lol
 
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Fox News camera man apparently just got attacked and camera broken
 
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Partially, yes. And good job on conveniently ignoring the police's role in this.

Their only role in this is being absent from the area. The rest of it is purely due to the brutality of the mob.
 
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Partially, yes. And good job on conveniently ignoring the police's role in this.

The police didn't respond until they were getting shot at, what would you of done? Set there and let them?

Also, you can say that the media has been saying this is gonna happened, but that doesn't mean the idiots should do it. If I say your going to jump of the bridge, I doubt you are dumb enough to go do it. Besides, we knew what they would do because this is what they did before. Didn't take a genius to figure this was going to end badly. Hell even Obama said that some people would do this.
 
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Partially, yes. And good job on conveniently ignoring the police's role in this.

The cops are keeping this from turning into outright mayhem and carnage. The biggest question is, can they keep up with the escalation.
 
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Fox News camera man apparently just got attacked and camera broken

Not shocking sadly. But to be fair, there have also been CNN reporters threatened as well.
 
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This wasn't a federal case....

from the article:

Wilson’s case was heard in state court, not federal, so the numbers aren’t directly comparable. Unlike in federal court, most states, including Missouri, allow prosecutors to bring charges via a preliminary hearing in front of a judge instead of through a grand jury indictment. That means many routine cases never go before a grand jury. Still, legal experts agree that, at any level, it is extremely rare for prosecutors to fail to win an indictment.
 
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MSNBC is blaming the police for encouraging the looting. Lol

Sounds about right. But that's what you get when you keep putting up race baiters.
 
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From your link, it looks like it isn't rare at all to see a non-indictment of a police officer. It seems to be the overwhelming reality.

That's important to note because there is no data regarding the racial make-up of those involved in the non-indictment of Police officers. It looks like Police officers are simply less likely to be indicted than regular people.

that being said, it would be interesting to see if there is a racial connection with Police indictments/non-indictments.
 
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MSNBC is blaming the police for encouraging the looting. Lol

Of course they are!
 
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The cops are keeping this from turning into outright mayhem and carnage. The biggest question is, can they keep up with the escalation.

Trying to keep it from turning it into mayhem and carnage. Given the numbers they have, they are doing a good job.

They simply don't have enough men to do the job. Unfortunately some businesses have been terribly damaged, and if they were lucky, only have to replace some glass.
 
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Trying my best to keep things orderly in here. Every action that is being taken is not necessarily happening in an in thread warning. Largely keeping in thread warnings as a means to deal with keeping the thread on track more than dealing with clear violations of flaming/hate speech/slurs/baiting/etc. Don't assume that something you don't see done is just ignored, and please report anything you think is a problem to assist with making sure everything is seen.

Let's stick to the topic and continue the largely good job everyones doing in keeping things civil during this hectic situation
 
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MSNBC gets it's talking points from the Obama White House.

I actually thought Obama's statement was pretty good, played both sides but was very careful to not say what he thought about the ruling (which we all know how he really felt.)
 
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Fox News camera man apparently just got attacked and camera broken

What was Fox News thinking ?

Fox News wont even go into South L.A. without a squad of armed security.
 
Anyone hear about the road block on I-44?
 
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From your link, it looks like it isn't rare at all to see a non-indictment of a police officer. It seems to be the overwhelming reality.

That's important to note because there is no data regarding the racial make-up of those involved in the non-indictment of Police officers. It looks like Police officers are simply less likely to be indicted than regular people.

that being said, it would be interesting to see if there is a racial connection with Police indictments/non-indictments.

Yeah, they talked about that on CNN earlier.

Essentially, while grand juries (specifically at the federal level) often do indict, it's actually quite the opposite in regards to cases against police officers. That's because people generally give SIGNIFICANTLY more leeway to police officers than normal civilians in these situations (and often the LAW gives more leeway to them) because of the realities of having to make split second decisions regarding potential threats to their life, and so often people are far less likely to indict in such cases.
 
Cnn Reporter walking with the police as they move up.... awkward...
 
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This wasn't a federal case....

What I just heard about ten minutes ago, Eric Holder said that the AG office is still continuing their investigation.

Sounds like a witch hunt to me.
 
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What I just heard about ten minutes ago, Eric Holder said that the AG office is still continuing their investigation.

Sounds like a witch hunt to me.

Someone shouted the question just as Obama was walking out. I think if he was going to say it, he might as well of said it in the press conference in an effort to try and turn down the volume. Not that I think it would of helped, but if it is a witch hunt, then say it there.
 
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