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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am no lawyer, but I think the mother was complicit in inciting as well because she also was incorporating "F... the Police" into her grief stricken anger, and also for the mother to be out there stand above the crowd, displaying such anger, and grief absolutely was stirring the crowd....And she knew it.
    Perhaps it was the tv I was watching it on but the "**** the police" slogan seemed to come from another woman in the crowd, and not her.

    As to their presence there, I wouldn't have been there. I would have been in the comfort of my own home with people I cared for. I wouldn't want to be in the mayhem of the streets and I wouldn't want my anger to push forward an already tense situation to the brink.

    What was going through their heads at that moment, I do not know. But when the stepfather said those things, it was of course over the line and he is lucky that the politics of this are such that he wouldn't be punished.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well, rhetorically it would be the violence that was experienced (or perpetrated by) Michael Brown (or if you were of the persuasion, young African American males in general) and you would respond with violence in kind (destroying the structures of society).

    As I've said from the start of this thread (and the weeks before), I am in no way on the side of the mob and I think many people are being far too kind to these people.
    but at least you weren't trying to explain the gratuitous use of the adverb...


    Here's the way I see it. You have a criminal who thought he was bulletproof because as some of the testimony had shown, he didn't think the cop had the balls to shoot him. He was proven wrong.

    Now, there are other things which do deserve righteous indignation. The fact that his body was left in the street for 4 hours and then thrown into the back of a police wagon? Yeah, that's some jacked up doo doo. Is it burn the town down jacked up? No.

    I am all for an uprising if said uprising is just, or to combat/protest and real injustice.

    This however is a contrived injustice based off of other wrongdoings(perceived or real) and sentiments.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Perhaps it was the tv I was watching it on but the "**** the police" slogan seemed to come from another woman in the crowd, and not her.

    As to their presence there, I wouldn't have been there. I would have been in the comfort of my own home with people I cared for. I wouldn't want to be in the mayhem of the streets and I wouldn't want my anger to push forward an already tense situation to the brink.

    What was going through their heads at that moment, I do not know. But when the stepfather said those things, it was of course over the line and he is lucky that the politics of this are such that he wouldn't be punished.
    I agree, however if you watch the video earlier in this thread, she absolutely does say 'F*** the Police' more than once...
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I agree, however if you watch the video earlier in this thread, she absolutely does say 'F*** the Police' more than once...
    Which illustrates exactly what I said....that the good cops out there should help weed out the bad apples because it makes their job just that much more difficult. However, the code of silence is strong. Hopefully one day the good cops will come to this realization.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It has nothing to do with race for me. It has to do with the constant refusal of grand jurors and juries to hold police accountable for their actions. They will bend over backwards to give a pass to a person because they carry a badge.
    Or perhaps when it's someones job to put their life on the life to protect people, then the GJ finds it a little more reasonable when deadly force is used.

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    Nah, if we're to make him a martyr, might as well take it all the way...
    This kind of statement makes you no better than the man trying to get people to burn the town down.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Everyone keeps posting this opinion piece. I don't find any of it unbelievable. What I hear is a person trying to recall details from when they were put in a life or death situation. And to find Brown's actions (from Wilson's statement) unbelievable is giving Brown a free pass. If he gets his ass off the street and onto the sidewalk, he gets to live another day. Why does the aggressor in this situation get a free pass on his actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you look at Wilson's statement it certainly raises suspicion that he is not being truthful. It doesn't make sense. That may not rise to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt but that alone should be enough to establish probable cause to put it in front of a jury in a trial to decide.
    What part of his statement doesn't make sense? I found it made perfect sense.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    but at least you weren't trying to explain the gratuitous use of the adverb...


    Here's the way I see it. You have a criminal who thought he was bulletproof because as some of the testimony had shown, he didn't think the cop had the balls to shoot him. He was proven wrong.

    Now, there are other things which do deserve righteous indignation. The fact that his body was left in the street for 4 hours and then thrown into the back of a police wagon? Yeah, that's some jacked up doo doo. Is it burn the town down jacked up? No.

    I am all for an uprising if said uprising is just, or to combat/protest and real injustice.

    This however is a contrived injustice based off of other wrongdoings(perceived or real) and sentiments.
    That's largely my view, but I abstain from making judgments on the particulars of the case itself. I am in no way able to make that kind of a judgment. I am however, quite able to say that public disorder is bad and unjustified. Revolutionaries always attempt to spread their delusional justifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I agree, however if you watch the video earlier in this thread, she absolutely does say 'F*** the Police' more than once...
    It didn't seem that way, but I am more than willing to be wrong about what I hear or don't hear when drinking my coffee.
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    As a side note, Obama is currently speaking on Ferguson in the Jefferson Park neighborhood which is about oh, less than 3 miles from me. He's there to speak on immigration. Now, the area he is in (well, close by it) is known as "Little Warsaw" as it is the heart of the Polish Community here in Chicago. One, how he's trying to tie Ferguson into Immigration is laughable. Two, I don't think a meaningful representation of those 5 million illegals are from Polonia. Why isn't he in Little Village? There he can see first hand how fake green cards are made and distributed. Nah, no, he can't go there, that wouldn't make a good photo op... Let's talk immigration to a backdrop of pasty white europeans...

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Which illustrates exactly what I said....that the good cops out there should help weed out the bad apples because it makes their job just that much more difficult. However, the code of silence is strong. Hopefully one day the good cops will come to this realization.
    Oh knock off the "code of silence" crap...It has NOTHING to do with this case.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Or perhaps when it's someones job to put their life on the life to protect people, then the GJ finds it a little more reasonable when deadly force is used.This kind of statement makes you no better than the man trying to get people to burn the town down. Everyone keeps posting this opinion piece. I don't find any of it unbelievable. What I hear is a person trying to recall details from when they were put in a life or death situation. And to find Brown's actions (from Wilson's statement) unbelievable is giving Brown a free pass. If he gets his ass off the street and onto the sidewalk, he gets to live another day. Why does the aggressor in this situation get a free pass on his actions?What part of his statement doesn't make sense? I found it made perfect sense.
    Almost the whole thing. Starting with that someone who just committed a theft is going to getall in your face to a cop that is politely asking him to get on the sidewalk. If anything, they would comply so that they don't get busted for the theft....or they would run. The part where he allegedly says to a cop holding a gun "You are too much of a pussy to shoot me"....it defies logic. It reads as if someone who is quickly trying to manufacture a story...and trust me, having represented hundreds if not thousands of people charged with crimes, I've read many a manufactured story. This one just rings of fabrication all over it.
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