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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....I am a criminal law attorney.....I think I know a little about how grand juries work. Too funny.
    LOL !!

    Is that supposed to instill some kind of confidence in your perennial nonsensical ramblings ?

    A " criminal law attorney " that got sucked into all of the BS and false narratives about a so called " Gentle Giant " being gunned down for being black is STILL a very naive individual.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    Is that supposed to instill some kind of confidence in your perennial nonsensical ramblings ?

    A " criminal law attorney " that got sucked into all of the BS and false narratives about a so called " Gentle Giant " being gunned down for being black is STILL a very naive individual.
    I didn't say anything about a "gentle giant" or someone being gunned down for being black. You need to read more carefully.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....I am a criminal law attorney.....I think I know a little about how grand juries work. Too funny.
    If you know how grand juries work, you wouldn't have posted a stupid post like that, and you know it.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the photos are out there - photos which will show us a face that was so damaged there was reasonable fear that the next punch to it could have been fatal, as the cop attested, then show it to us on this debate site and convince us that it is you who is correct instead of me
    you insist there are other available photos to offer. so, offer them


    i posted the photo of the cop on the evening of the event, soon after he insisted that the next blow to his face could have been fatal. to ask the viewer to question how legitimate that cop's testimony was based on the photo
    so, again, share with us your photo which will support your position


    then let's ask a different question
    the grand jury is intended to make a determination of probable cause. to assess whether there was enough reason to proceed with a case at trial, for a jury to make a decision
    based on what i have seen, there was an abundance of evidence to cause a reasonable person to conclude that there was probable cause for a trial. not to make a determination of guilt or acquittal, but enough to warrant a trial


    which exactly why a trial was needed. others of us have an issue with that conclusion. the cop was seated in his SUV and backed up to confront the young men walking in the road for a second time. who was the party to actually initiate this physical conflict. it may have been brown. but let's see this at trial. what might be found is that it was the cop who assaulted brown and brown was defending himself from the cop's assault


    from the video i watched, my recollection was that brown was headed out the door when he was approached by the store operator, and then shook him off. at a trial we would be better able to assess what that was about. did brown steal those cigars or was he leaving abruptly after being approached to determine if he was old enough to make that purchase. right now, i don't know


    were there other witnesses who saw brown not charge but instead place his hands in a position of surrender. i believe there were. which alone would tell us there was probable cause to have a trial to learn the truth. something which will not come out without a trial


    i can accept the truth. but it will require a trial for the truth to emerge. only a simpleton would believe a grand jury determines truth. it only evaluates probable cause for or against a trial going forward


    again, how do you know which narrative is false? there has been no trial for all sides of the issue to emerge
    I know what the false narrative is based on the facts of the case, from forensic evidence to the officers testimony, to the witness testimony-several of those witnesses (the ones who's lies you want to be) were not only inconsistent with each other-but several were outright discredited as not even being there to see what happened. Browns thug buddy admitted they stole those cigars, as the shop owner reported and as can be seen in the video. That was a robbery and assault, not "shaking off" the store owner-you think that little shop owner was simply looking for trouble? Im sure you do, as you think the cop was.

    And on that, lets not forget PUNCHING THE OFFICER IN THE FACE was only the opening move, he followed it by trying to get the cops gun. Evidence backs this up. And then after fleeing he turned around and told the cop he wasn't going to shoot him, at which point he charged the cop. The thug was wrong and dropped like a bag of rocks. Im fine with that.
    punched in the back of the head: http://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.co...0011.jpg?w=620
    punched in the jaw:
    Darren Wilson Evidence Photos CBS St. Louis

    But...lets not pretend actual evidence will persuade you-you just KNOW what happened and if the facts dont reflect that its the facts fault.

    I dont think theres any reason this even go to court, there would be no case for the prosecutor. What you are advocating is another empty trial (like the zimmerman case) that will find the cop justified in defending his own life. And then there will be more violence and rioting by the same lynch mob.

    Not good enough.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    So you see 'Victory for the good guys' as a White cop putting six bullets in an 18-year old un-armed black teen-ager that he can't control?

    We'll see how that works out.
    No I see it as a victory for the Good Guys since the justice system did not give into the lynch mob.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If you know how grand juries work, you wouldn't have posted a stupid post like that, and you know it.
    There was nothing stupid about the post (other than you disagreed with it). I've presented cases to grand juries, so I think I probably know a little more about the process than you.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but that was not the issue i was presenting
    my point was to look at the face of the cop, photographed at the emergency room immediately after the incident
    and by looking at that photo to conclude how truthful the cop's testimony was when asserting that he believed the next blow to that face could have been fatal
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    and i asked the forum community to ask themselves, is this the face of a shooter who reasonably believed the next punch to it could have proven fatal? was the cop being honest in his grand jury testimony?
    Ah so you are doubling down on the lie, here by showing the frontal view of the victim and not where he was struck. Whats with the dishonety?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There was nothing stupid about the post (other than you disagreed with it). I've presented cases to grand juries, so I think I probably know a little more about the process than you.
    Thanks for proving you don't. Unless you are a prosecutor you don't present anything to a grand jury. Defense attorneys aren't even allowed in the room.

    Are you claiming to be a prosecutor now?

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's not necessary at this moment and will only make matters worse. If he's out there again leading the charge, yes, he should be arrested. There will be decisions that are made for the good of the community and the effectiveness of establishing control.

    No, it's ABSOLUTELY necessary.

    Again, laws with exemptions based on fear of reprisal by a individual or a group ( Mob ) aren't laws anymore, they're suggestions.



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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Plenty of witnesses were NOT being truthful.

    In fact there were blatant examples of perjury .

    They're going to be ignored apparently by the prosecutor.

    Defining deviancy down I suppose.

    Yes, ofcourse the Cop was being honest.

    One of the few honest accounts given.
    The cops story has never changed and was always consistent with the evidence. Wish we could say the same about some of these false witnesses-who should face legal sanctions for the lies they have told.

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