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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but there were witnesses who saw it as a inappropriate use of force by wilson
    which causes there to be probable cause to have a trial to determine where the truth is
    Have you read every piece of evidence that was released?

    If so, please point to the witness testimony that contradicts the Grand Jury's findings. Which specific eyewitness?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    very flawed gj proceedings
    that is the point
    Would you please explain how they were flawed?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but there were witnesses who saw it as a inappropriate use of force by wilson
    which causes there to be probable cause to have a trial to determine where the truth is
    No, there weren't. And the evidence does not support a trial.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, there weren't. And the evidence does not support a trial.
    your presentation is that there was no witness who saw anything other than that wilson's shooting of brown was a reasonable one
    i find that an incredible conclusion
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i believe it was a flawed grand jury proceeding because it was a one-sided manipulation by the prosecutor
    a prosecutor who has a natural alliance with the police force whose testimony is useful to the prosecutor when he is prosecuting cases
    he was asked to recuse himself
    and he would not
    why
    You can think what you want but the governor could have ordered him removed from the proceedings and he refused to.

    First the attempt was to smear the police department as being incompetent/racist. And then after the verdict phase two must be to smear the Grand Jury process as being shady.

    When the Hell does all this stop and people start coming to grips with what really occurred?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that's the whole point
    there was sufficient probable cause to go to trial
    not allowing it to do so, by a manipulated grand jury proceeding, undermines the pursuit of justice and the public's trust in our justice system
    Prove it.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    your presentation is that there was no witness who saw anything other than that wilson's shooting of brown was a reasonable one
    i find that an incredible conclusion
    No actual witness, that would be correct. There were a couple who stepped forward as witnesses that weren't even there or were shown to be lying through their teeth (Johnson who all the actual witnesses say was lying). It's a conclusion based upon the evidence which you seem to want to ignore.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but there were witnesses who saw it as a inappropriate use of force by wilson
    which causes there to be probable cause to have a trial to determine where the truth is
    And their account was unsubstantiated by any evidence to support their assertion.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but there were witnesses who saw it as a inappropriate use of force by wilson
    which causes there to be probable cause to have a trial to determine where the truth is
    Eyewitness testimony is shockingly unreliable. Thousands of people (many if not most being black) have been falsely imprisoned by inaccurate eyewitness testimony. What was actually in front of their eyes at the time, what they actually percieved with their eyes at the time, what they reported seeing to the investigators, what they now remember, and what they today report to have seen can be and often are ridiculously different. Not all eyewitness evidence can or should be weighted equally. Just because someone reports seeing something does not mean that it should be considered fact. Those memories are greatly biased by events outside what was actually witnessed by the person. That is especially true when you start adding in subjective judgments (e.g., the appropriateness of force used).

    The purpose of an adversarial trial is not to find truth, but to render judgement.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that's the whole point
    there was sufficient probable cause to go to trial
    not allowing it to do so, by a manipulated grand jury proceeding, undermines the pursuit of justice and the public's trust in our justice system


    What was the "sufficient probable cause"?
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