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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The physical evidence doesn't prove probable cause to warrant a charge, then a trial. How do you justifify throwing The Constitution out the window?
    then explain to me why there was no tissue under brown's nails that would match wilson's testimony
    but a singular instance of probable cause, necessitating a trial
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but that was not the issue i was presenting
    my point was to look at the face of the cop, photographed at the emergency room immediately after the incident
    and by looking at that photo to conclude how truthful the cop's testimony was when asserting that he believed the next blow to that face could have been fatal
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    and i asked the forum community to ask themselves, is this the face of a shooter who reasonably believed the next punch to it could have proven fatal? was the cop being honest in his grand jury testimony?
    Brown was a big kid. If he had hit Wilson and Wilson had lost control of his weapon, then what? The bottom line here is that once Brown assaulted Wilson, Wilson was obligated to arrest him. It went bad after that but if Brown wouldn't have been confrontational, we'd be talking about immigration.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The bias of the prosecutor?

    The GJ heard and saw all the evidence, including the major disparity in some of the "eyewitness" accounts. This was all presented.

    The GJ did not find that Wilson committed a crime and that's why they didn't indict him. It's what they're sworn to do. Decide if a crime was committed...
    the grand jury did their job
    they heard the evidence and rendered an opinion
    they could not control that they were manipulated by a one-sided presentation
    it is that flawed prosecutorial presentation that is the basis for the grand jury outcome
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    it didn't happen here
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Because the people said they were witnesses, so they were called to testify. Only after their testimony was scrutinized by the jurors, themselves, was their testimony determined to be inaccurate or made up.
    but this exhibits the bias of the prosecutor
    to place the non-witnesses on the stand to testify they did not see the events unfold
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that's the whole point
    there was sufficient probable cause to go to trial
    not allowing it to do so, by a manipulated grand jury proceeding, undermines the pursuit of justice and the public's trust in our justice system
    I just don't get where you find there was sufficient probable cause. If there was any manipulation, it started with how the media covered this story by stating things over and over that were false causing many to form an opinion based on hearsay.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    In order to ACTUALLY believe that justice was NOT served here...you would have to believe a conspiracy theory so incredible it would make the 9/11 conspiracies look like small potatoes. Think about all the twists and turns you have to go through to believe such nonsense. OTHER AFRICAN AMERICANS -including one with a handwritten letter- described the event the SAME WAY THE OFFICER DID. the witnesses who's stories DIDN'T match up with the officer ALSO didn't match with the DNA and physical evidence at the scene(by the way, those people should be thrown in jail for perjury_).
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I just don't get where you find there was sufficient probable cause. If there was any manipulation, it started with how the media covered this story by stating things over and over that were false causing many to form an opinion based on hearsay.
    i believe it was a flawed grand jury proceeding because it was a one-sided manipulation by the prosecutor
    a prosecutor who has a natural alliance with the police force whose testimony is useful to the prosecutor when he is prosecuting cases
    he was asked to recuse himself
    and he would not
    why
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    In order to ACTUALLY believe that justice was NOT served here...you would have to believe a conspiracy theory so incredible it would make the 9/11 conspiracies look like small potatoes. Think about all the twists and turns you have to go through to believe such nonsense. OTHER AFRICAN AMERICANS -including one with a handwritten letter- described the event the SAME WAY THE OFFICER DID. the ones who's stories don't match up also don't match with the DNA and physical evidence at the scene(by the way, those people should be thrown in jail for perjury_).
    all it would require is a belief that the prosecutor engaged in a flawed grand jury presentation
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the grand jury did their job
    they heard the evidence and rendered an opinion
    they could not control that they were manipulated by a one-sided presentation
    it is that flawed prosecutorial presentation that is the basis for the grand jury outcome
    if you want peace, work for justice
    it didn't happen here
    It wasn't a one sided presentation. It followed the standards of all grand jury proceedings.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We'll skop all that crap and just interrogate Darren Wilson and base the verdict on his presentation, alone.
    Actually, no one seems to care what the officer had to say at all, although as the accused, his testimony should be taken with a grain of salt as the prosecutor basically said in his presentation last night. However, the physical evidence and the testimony that was consistent with the physical evidence and with each other.... was considered.

    What we are hearing in this thread, and on the news today, is that some people don't trust the system that we have and would prefer to just use a lynch mob form of "justice."

    The news media and "group think" had come to their own conclusions - minus all the evidence. I'm watching a video of Al Sharpton talking about "justice" as if justice had not occurred. He at least is asking people to stop burning things down.

    As I watched this last night, I kept hearing a lot of people (including Sharpton and other Black Leaders) talking about how the prosecutor and the Grand Jury made mistakes. How the system was, and is flawed. How the police should not have used tear gas, even in the face of gun fire, rioting, looting and arson.

    I keep hearing that the black community has lost confidence in the justice system. Maybe they have some good and reasonable reasons to feel so. But... the reason they are giving today is that as long as the system doesn't come to a conclusion that they agree with, that it is flawed. That is not a legitimate reason.
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