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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how do you know that they were wrong? there was no trial
    They were wrong, because their testimony didn't match the physical evidence.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i don't know
    which is why a trial is needed to make that determination
    Going off this medical file on Wilson, It sounds like something or someone did hit him. No pictures or X-rays attached to it though.
    Darren Wilson Medical Records

    Edit: documents here: http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/fergu.../evidence.html
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how do you know that they were wrong? there was no trial
    Many of the witnesses admitted they were wrong. Some of them admitted they lied, some admitted they didn't see all of what they claimed to see, and some admitted they weren't there at all.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why would a trial constitute a kangaroo court?
    Because you want Wilson judged on his presentation, not the facts and the evidence.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Protesters want that and will use legal channels for such. Hooligans and gang members want chaos. This is true in every setting. Why are you conflating the two?
    When you see cars burning and shops looted it's hard to separate the two. Knowing who the adult is in the crowd, is difficult.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    which is why i would want to see how wilson would respond on the witness stand, replying in cross examination, allowing us to evaluate the reasonableness of his presentations
    a trial is needed for that to occur
    which is why probable cause should have been found by the grand jury
    While I understand how you (or anyone else) might feel that way it would be incredibly unfair to subject someone that is obviously operating within the bounds of the law to be subjected to the whims of a jury. Besides, would having a trial really have helped this situation? When the evidence was presented that all the physical evidence supported Wilson and that several of the witness statements supporting Brown were either unsupported by physical evidence or made up out of whole cloth it would have been pretty damned hard to get a conviction on anything.

    I'm looking through the whole transcript now to find the specifics but last night I heard that blood evidence on the street pretty much proved that Brown had turned and run at Wilson. If that's the case then that pretty much locks down Wilson's version as fact. There was absolutely nothing unfair that the state did in this process. The only unfair thing I've seen so far is that Ferguson got wrecked and any good people that live there will never get the stain of stupid off themselves.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's a good thing you dropped it. I wouldn't want you to actually post what I said and admit I didn't claim anything about your statements but an argument made by the rightwing ideology.
    Already did a ways back. Now,

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    Read it, learn it, take it to heart. Get back on topic.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    When you see cars burning and shops looted it's hard to separate the two. Knowing who the adult is in the crowd, is difficult.
    That doesn't excuse you from rational discourse.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    allow the truth to emerge
    subject the testimony to cross examination
    You can't cross examine physical evidence.

    But, if you want to put Dorian Johnson on the stand and make him admit that he participated in the assault, that would be ****ing hillarious.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but that was not the issue i was presenting
    my point was to look at the face of the cop, photographed at the emergency room immediately after the incident
    and by looking at that photo to conclude how truthful the cop's testimony was when asserting that he believed the next blow to that face could have been fatal
    Attachment 67176385
    and i asked the forum community to ask themselves, is this the face of a shooter who reasonably believed the next punch to it could have proven fatal? was the cop being honest in his grand jury testimony?
    Didn't listen to the testimony of any of the witnesses that weren't found to be lying did you? He was struggling with two strongarm robbery suspects, one much bigger than him. One going for his gun.

    The picture doesn't show his injuries at that exposure.

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