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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Ever been in what is essentially a life or death situation where you are not the aggressor? Can I imagine/believe that Wilson was fearful that the next blow could have disabled him (knocked out, stunned, etc) and Brown uses Wilson handgun to shoot him? I can absolutely believe that could have been going through Wilson's mind.


    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you show it to us
    PLEASE!
    i want to see a face that tells us he had reasonable reason to believe the next blow to it could have been fatal
    so, please do show us that photo
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    this is all that i have. show us the photo you insist will exculpate the shooter
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but that was not the issue i was presenting
    my point was to look at the face of the cop, photographed at the emergency room immediately after the incident
    and by looking at that photo to conclude how truthful the cop's testimony was when asserting that he believed the next blow to that face could have been fatal
    Attachment 67176385
    and i asked the forum community to ask themselves, is this the face of a shooter who reasonably believed the next punch to it could have proven fatal? was the cop being honest in his grand jury testimony?
    Did Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson assault Darren Wilson? Yes, or no?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you won
    coldest post ever on the internet
    Well you got it, I wonder how many didn't ?

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    Did Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson assault Darren Wilson? Yes, or no?
    i don't know
    which is why a trial is needed to make that determination
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    which exactly why a trial was needed. others of us have an issue with that conclusion. the cop was seated in his SUV and backed up to confront the young men walking in the road for a second time. who was the party to actually initiate this physical conflict. it may have been brown. but let's see this at trial. what might be found is that it was the cop who assaulted brown and brown was defending himself from the cop's assault
    Wilson, from his own testimony, backed up because of Brown's comments and the cigarillos in Brown's hand. He had heard about the theft on his radio prior to his contact with Brown. Imagine if Brown and his buddy were walking on the sidewalk, or at least complied with Wilson when he suggested to them that the sidewalk was a better place to walk.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    were there other witnesses who saw brown not charge but instead place his hands in a position of surrender. i believe there were. which alone would tell us there was probable cause to have a trial to learn the truth. something which will not come out without a trial
    I believe all of the witnesses who saw Brown in a position of surrender were found out to be wrong.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i don't know
    which is why a trial is needed to make that determination
    You don't know?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Ever been in what is essentially a life or death situation where you are not the aggressor? Can I imagine/believe that Wilson was fearful that the next blow could have disabled him (knocked out, stunned, etc) and Brown uses Wilson handgun to shoot him? I can absolutely believe that could have been going through Wilson's mind.
    which is why i would want to see how wilson would respond on the witness stand, replying in cross examination, allowing us to evaluate the reasonableness of his presentations
    a trial is needed for that to occur
    which is why probable cause should have been found by the grand jury
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Not according to a grand jury, who saw all the evidence.


    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i don't know
    which is why a trial is needed to make that determination
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Wilson, from his own testimony, backed up because of Brown's comments and the cigarillos in Brown's hand. He had heard about the theft on his radio prior to his contact with Brown. Imagine if Brown and his buddy were walking on the sidewalk, or at least complied with Wilson when he suggested to them that the sidewalk was a better place to walk.



    I believe all of the witnesses who saw Brown in a position of surrender were found out to be wrong.
    how do you know that they were wrong? there was no trial
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the photos are out there - photos which will show us a face that was so damaged there was reasonable fear that the next punch to it could have been fatal, as the cop attested, then show it to us on this debate site and convince us that it is you who is correct instead of me
    you insist there are other available photos to offer. so, offer them


    i posted the photo of the cop on the evening of the event, soon after he insisted that the next blow to his face could have been fatal. to ask the viewer to question how legitimate that cop's testimony was based on the photo
    so, again, share with us your photo which will support your position


    then let's ask a different question
    the grand jury is intended to make a determination of probable cause. to assess whether there was enough reason to proceed with a case at trial, for a jury to make a decision
    based on what i have seen, there was an abundance of evidence to cause a reasonable person to conclude that there was probable cause for a trial. not to make a determination of guilt or acquittal, but enough to warrant a trial


    which exactly why a trial was needed. others of us have an issue with that conclusion. the cop was seated in his SUV and backed up to confront the young men walking in the road for a second time. who was the party to actually initiate this physical conflict. it may have been brown. but let's see this at trial. what might be found is that it was the cop who assaulted brown and brown was defending himself from the cop's assault


    from the video i watched, my recollection was that brown was headed out the door when he was approached by the store operator, and then shook him off. at a trial we would be better able to assess what that was about. did brown steal those cigars or was he leaving abruptly after being approached to determine if he was old enough to make that purchase. right now, i don't know


    were there other witnesses who saw brown not charge but instead place his hands in a position of surrender. i believe there were. which alone would tell us there was probable cause to have a trial to learn the truth. something which will not come out without a trial


    i can accept the truth. but it will require a trial for the truth to emerge. only a simpleton would believe a grand jury determines truth. it only evaluates probable cause for or against a trial going forward


    again, how do you know which narrative is false? there has been no trial for all sides of the issue to emerge
    What's a trial going to do?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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