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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lmao - I literally posted my response when you were still online. I can even prove it. You're not right wing now? That's not an argument made by the right wing ideology? You need to stop this before you look even worse.
    You just love that victim card, and play it poorly.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    No-the photos are out there, taken at the same time as this-im not going to spoon feed you while you tap dance. But thats not the real issue here.
    if the photos are out there - photos which will show us a face that was so damaged there was reasonable fear that the next punch to it could have been fatal, as the cop attested, then show it to us on this debate site and convince us that it is you who is correct instead of me
    you insist there are other available photos to offer. so, offer them

    WHY would you post the view that shows no injury when there are others out there that do? Are you trying to misrepresent here?
    i posted the photo of the cop on the evening of the event, soon after he insisted that the next blow to his face could have been fatal. to ask the viewer to question how legitimate that cop's testimony was based on the photo
    so, again, share with us your photo which will support your position

    I think we know the answer to this.
    then let's ask a different question
    the grand jury is intended to make a determination of probable cause. to assess whether there was enough reason to proceed with a case at trial, for a jury to make a decision
    based on what i have seen, there was an abundance of evidence to cause a reasonable person to conclude that there was probable cause for a trial. not to make a determination of guilt or acquittal, but enough to warrant a trial

    Brown was a thug who attacked a cop and then tried to shoot him with the cops own gun.
    which exactly why a trial was needed. others of us have an issue with that conclusion. the cop was seated in his SUV and backed up to confront the young men walking in the road for a second time. who was the party to actually initiate this physical conflict. it may have been brown. but let's see this at trial. what might be found is that it was the cop who assaulted brown and brown was defending himself from the cop's assault

    Brown had just assaulted a store clerk (who's store was looted tonight) and then robbed him.
    from the video i watched, my recollection was that brown was headed out the door when he was approached by the store operator, and then shook him off. at a trial we would be better able to assess what that was about. did brown steal those cigars or was he leaving abruptly after being approached to determine if he was old enough to make that purchase. right now, i don't know

    Brown charged the cop according to black witnesses in the grand jury.
    were there other witnesses who saw brown not charge but instead place his hands in a position of surrender. i believe there were. which alone would tell us there was probable cause to have a trial to learn the truth. something which will not come out without a trial

    Why can't you accept the truth?
    i can accept the truth. but it will require a trial for the truth to emerge. only a simpleton would believe a grand jury determines truth. it only evaluates probable cause for or against a trial going forward

    Why are you willing to deceive yourself and others over a false narrative?
    again, how do you know which narrative is false? there has been no trial for all sides of the issue to emerge
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    You just love that victim card, and play it poorly.
    Huh? It's like you're a bot programmed to type something that sounds somewhat coherent.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
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    Read it, learn it, take it to heart. Get back on topic.
    It's a good thing you dropped it. I wouldn't want you to actually post what I said and admit I didn't claim anything about your statements but an argument made by the rightwing ideology.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    What?

    Nothing to do with Disney.
    Sorry, I'm confused. Blonde today...very blonde.

    I'm challenging Disney on his assertion that Wilson clearly committed a crime. I disagree with Disney, both based on what I heard last night as well as some scanning of the evidence that's out there now.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    What do the protesters want? Justice? I do to. The truth? I do to. We have a process to find the answers and they don't like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    What do the protesters want? Justice? I do to. The truth? I do to. We have a process to find the answers and they don't like it
    Protesters want that and will use legal channels for such. Hooligans and gang members want chaos. This is true in every setting. Why are you conflating the two?

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Proportional response is not the standard. Police carry weapons and it's their duty to protect themselves harm and keep their weapon in control at all times. The standard is not, you busted my lip so I give you a black eye. The standard is obey the law and don't assault a cop.
    but that was not the issue i was presenting
    my point was to look at the face of the cop, photographed at the emergency room immediately after the incident
    and by looking at that photo to conclude how truthful the cop's testimony was when asserting that he believed the next blow to that face could have been fatal
    ferguson cop the day after the shooting getting his face punched twice.jpg
    and i asked the forum community to ask themselves, is this the face of a shooter who reasonably believed the next punch to it could have proven fatal? was the cop being honest in his grand jury testimony?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but that was not the issue i was presenting
    my point was to look at the face of the cop, photographed at the emergency room immediately after the incident
    and by looking at that photo to conclude how truthful the cop's testimony was when asserting that he believed the next blow to that face could have been fatal
    ferguson cop the day after the shooting getting his face punched twice.jpg
    and i asked the forum community to ask themselves, is this the face of a shooter who reasonably believed the next punch to it could have proven fatal? was the cop being honest in his grand jury testimony?
    Plenty of witnesses were NOT being truthful.

    In fact there were blatant examples of perjury .

    They're going to be ignored apparently by the prosecutor.

    Defining deviancy down I suppose.

    Yes, ofcourse the Cop was being honest.

    One of the few honest accounts given.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nope. I have no problem with a cop using deadly force where it is warranted. Here it clearly was not. Like I said....hopefully one day the good cops out there (and I will say that they vastly outnumber the bad) will get wise to the fact that the code of silence makes it much more difficult to do their job. They should actively help weed out the bad apples, but all too often their sense of brotherhood does not allow them to do this. Hopefully that will change one day.
    How would you know if it clearly was not warranted. Tell you what, lets piss off a 280lb guy and have him charge at you while you hold the weapon. Im sure you would holster up and talk him down

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