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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Finally this thread appears to be touching on the root of the problem. In the hopes this will NOT offend, but from where I sit America IS obsessed with race, anytime there is a black-non black confrontation, the headlines are soon filled with it.

    The details of this have been hashed, re-hashed and hashhished to death, nothing changes and nothing will change by arguing them further.

    This is far greater a problem than the single incident of a white cop shooting a black kid. This strikes at the soft underbelly of the growing distrust in the nation's institutions, from the civil service, to the police, to firefighters [who were attacked trying to fight the fires] to the courts and ultimately to the presidency. The trust isn't just gone, it's rotting in grave.

    Why is this "no surprise"? Weeks and weeks have been spent with civic leaders, clergy, and the president himself have spoken to the community to "remain calm" in their legal protests, and in minutes all that evaporated. The situation was as raw as the day it happened, ripe for manipulation. How in the name of God could no one see this coming? No one in DP has even expressed surprise.

    That instigators and activists have exploited the tension is no surprise either, at least it shouldn't be, but there again we see the enormity of the issue, and the complete disconnect of the community, the police, and the president.

    The sad news is I don't see Ferguson as the last one of these either. Noting is being resolved here.
    you're right and part of the problem is our political system itself. The divide and conquer of our political campaigns that turns blocks of voters against each other. Blacks against whites, Hispanics against whites, rich against the poor, even at time blacks and hispanics against Asians. Religious against the non-religious and on and on. Divide and conquer, make on group hate the other in search of votes. The problem is this has been going on for a long time and the longer it goes on the more hate for each other exists.

    Here in Georgia one of our senate candidates sent out a mailer to just black folks basically stating if they didn't get out and vote for her, there would be a bunch of Ferguson's taking place in Georgia. Divide and conquer in search for votes. It's a wonder there haven't been a ton of Ferguson's.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The prosecutor has no control over the composition of the grand jury. The Ferguson MO grand jury of twelve was composed of 7 men and 5 women of various socioeconomic background. All are from the St. Louis area. 9 are white and 3 are black. 9 grand jury votes constitutes agreement for case disposition. It would be interesting to know the total vote to dismiss and how jurors voted by gender and race.
    If I recall correctly, in the announcement someone asked that question and the response was basically that giving that info out is illegal under MO law.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Finally this thread appears to be touching on the root of the problem. In the hopes this will NOT offend, but from where I sit America IS obsessed with race, anytime there is a black-non black confrontation, the headlines are soon filled with it.

    The details of this have been hashed, re-hashed and hashhished to death, nothing changes and nothing will change by arguing them further.

    This is far greater a problem than the single incident of a white cop shooting a black kid. This strikes at the soft underbelly of the growing distrust in the nation's institutions, from the civil service, to the police, to firefighters [who were attacked trying to fight the fires] to the courts and ultimately to the presidency. The trust isn't just gone, it's rotting in grave.

    Why is this "no surprise"? Weeks and weeks have been spent with civic leaders, clergy, and the president himself have spoken to the community to "remain calm" in their legal protests, and in minutes all that evaporated. The situation was as raw as the day it happened, ripe for manipulation. How in the name of God could no one see this coming? No one in DP has even expressed surprise.

    That instigators and activists have exploited the tension is no surprise either, at least it shouldn't be, but there again we see the enormity of the issue, and the complete disconnect of the community, the police, and the president.

    The sad news is I don't see Ferguson as the last one of these either. Noting is being resolved here.
    Hey F&L hope you are having a good day.
    I don't see Ferguson being the end of these types of occurances because I believe they are created purposely by design. I went back and read President Johnson's speech in response to the Watts riots.
    Here's a quote
    "A rioter with a Molotov cocktail in his hands is not fighting for civil rights any more than a Klansman with a sheet on his back and a mask on his face. They are both more or less what the law declares them: lawbreakers, destroyers of constitutional rights and liberties, and ultimately destroyers of a free America. They must be exposed and they must be dealt with".
    Now compare that to Obama's response last night.
    "We need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make," Obama said Monday night. "There are Americans who agree with it, and there are Americans who are deeply upset, even angry. It's an understandable reaction. But I join Michael's parents in asking anyone who protests this decision to do so peacefully."
    WTH?
    Great commentary at American Thinker breaking down Obama's words and more to the point what he could have said.
    Blog: What Obama said about the grand jury (and what he could have said)

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If I recall correctly, in the announcement someone asked that question and the response was basically that giving that info out is illegal under MO law.
    McCulloch said that during his speech/presser, that it was secret and not only could he not share the vote, he didn't even know it himself.

    But that didn't stop at least 3 (maybe 4) of the nitwits in the audience from asking him if he could share the breakdown of the vote.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Did I? Show us the post. I'll wait. However, here, I've got a prophecy for you: I said an ideology held that specific view. That ideology being the right wing.

    Did you give up on trying to tell people I responded after you left? Or did you see the time of the response and decided to drop that too?
    There's no need to continue on with the dodging. Everyone saw what you did and how wrong you were. Now you're just continuing to embarrass yourself. I'm fine allowing you to do that. But you've distracted from the thread topic enough, got anything more to say to me, make sure it's on topic. Everyone here has your number.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There's no need to continue on with the dodging. Everyone saw what you did and how wrong you were. Now you're just continuing to embarrass yourself. I'm fine allowing you to do that. But you've distracted from the thread topic enough, got anything more to say to me, make sure it's on topic. Everyone here has your number.
    Show us the post. What does it say? I'll wait.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Show us the post. What does it say? I'll wait.
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    Read it, learn it, take it to heart. Get back on topic.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
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    Read it, learn it, take it to heart. Get back on topic.
    No, no. I asked you to show us what the post says. Did I state "coming from the ideology"? Are you not right wing? I'll wait. The best part is that SMTA who is also right wing and then another right wing poster espoused those very opinions minutes later I stated it. That you're not trying to avoid like the plague what was actually said in the post is funny.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

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    No problem with Disney's actions?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No, no. I asked you to show us what the post says. Did I state "coming from the ideology"? Are you not right wing? I'll wait. The best part is that SMTA who is also right wing and then another right wing poster espoused those very opinions minutes later I stated it. That you're not trying to avoid like the plague what was actually said in the post is funny.
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    Read it, learn it, take it to heart. Get back on topic.

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