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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Much like the Zimmerman situation, we will never know the truth.

    We already know the truth in each case.


    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The first story reported in the media was that he was shot with his hands up in surrender.
    And most foks could tell that was a lie from the get.


    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    People kept assuming it would turn to violence with the Trayvon Martin ruling, and it didn't... I didn't think it was a sure bet.
    Very few actually thought that.

    And though they were wrong about riots , individuals have acted out violently and attributed their action as being for Trayvon.





    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The problem in this case was that there was so many inconsitencies in the story, and he talks about the hands that even there, it wasn't clear exactly where his hands were.
    Inconsistencies?

    There were lies being told from folks who are just against police.





    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    It was not the civilians who poured the metaphorical gasoline onto this situation.
    Yes it was, from the moment Dorian Johnson told the first lie it was civilians metaphorical pouring gasoline onto the fire to fan flames of racial hatred.





    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    In fact most of the folks in Ferguson that caused the real violence from the beginning were not the residents. They were outsiders as in community organizers of groups with a political agenda.
    That is not a point of fact.
    While their has been outside agitators present, what is and has happened is by Ferguson residents.





    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Absolutely. The military and the police are separate entities for a reason and the police most definitely should NOT be this:

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    No. The police have to be that to deal with citizens acting as animals and are attempting to harm them as well as other citizens and their property.




    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who survived that confrontation?

    Wilson killed a Black teenager that he was afraid of.

    That's exactly what happened.

    No. He killed an adult who had just attacked him, had tried to take his firearm establishing that he was a lethal threat, who was not following orders to stop but instead turned and tried to attack again.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Once again a thug gets away with murder because he carries a badge. I'm tired of jurors letting these murderers walk. The video was clear.
    The only video that has been clear is the ones of the witnesses lying.
    Officer Wilson's shooting was justified.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The evidence was clear. The grand juror like many before them simply chose to turn their eyes rather than indict a cop. Sad
    An absurd statement that you can not prove.

    Matter of fact, everything you have said about this case is absurd.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    I find there to be a bit of cognitive dissonance among both camps and it's really interesting to me.

    For example, there were folks saying the dude had just stolen cigarettes and was generally being belligerent, hence the shooting was no big deal. Brown supporters rightly said that that was a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean he deserved to get shot.

    Now the same people are saying this rioting and looting is because of the cops, because they put out a GJ finding that incited the population, had cops in divisive-looking riot gear, and released the news at night. Everyone else is rightly saying that this is a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean people should go set **** on fire.

    It's interesting how people go through mental gymnastics to shift the blame from what they think is the "right" side. They could do a case study on just this aspect of the trial alone.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    ‘Shut up Obama': Demonstrators pelt president with F-bombs over ‘peaceful protest’ message

    ‘Shut up Obama': Demonstrators pelt president with F-bombs over ‘peaceful protest’ message | Twitchy



    They didn't even care what the President had to say.
    Who knows, maybe there is hope for them yet?
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am so sick of this story. What a bunch of nonsense

    As I said before, this is almost nothing to do with the cop or the unfortunate dead victim (almost no one who is freaking out knew either of them).

    This is about poverty and America's obsession with 'race'.
    "America" is not obsessed with race. Racial agitators in America are obsessed with race.

    This verdict is almost nothing but an excuse for people that were angry long before this shooting ever happened, to vent their anger.


    My solution to all this (long term)?

    Fix the economy by getting the government and the Fed out of the way and let American 'free enterprise' fix the problem long term AND many 'blacks' have to stop self-segregating and fully integrate into 'white' mainstream America...whether they or 'whites' want them to.

    If 'blacks' that are poor are incredibly naive enough to think that the government will fix their problems with more welfare and affirmative action programs and the like...forget it.
    You have to get out of the slums and do it for yourselves. And not through sports or music (that only will work for a tiny minority), through hard work, imagination and perseverance.

    I truly regret that poor 'blacks' find themselves in bad economic situations...but whining about it or rioting won't help your situation. Positive action and a little bravery will.

    Stop whining and start doing.
    yeah. Well, if you figure out how to promulgate that message without being called a racist by those who have an incentive to do so, let me know.

    And to 'white' America? Stop being so damned racist.

    I have travelled to many first world countries and Americans (on average) are by FAR the most racist bunch I have ever come across. The average American just won't shut up about skin color.
    Take Canada, they have racism. But I guarantee you it is a HECK of a lot easier for a poor 'black' Canadian to integrate with mainstream Canadain society then it is for a poor 'black' American to do likewise. Not because they have more government 'race' programs (as far as I know, they have none)...but because most Canadians don't judge people NEARLY as much on the color (or colour) of their skin as average Americans do.
    utter and complete horse ****. Off the top of my head I've travelled through Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, Korea, England, Italy, Spain, Israel, Greece, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, and probably a few others that slip my mind at 8:20 in the morning. I've lived overseas for years, studied other nations and peoples' professionally for years. America is one of the least-racist places on the planet.

    Stop looking at people as 'races' and just look at them as people.

    Maybe if most average, 'white' Americans (and the 'white' dominated media) stopped thinking of 'black' Americans as a different 'race' and just looked upon them as Americans, 'blacks' would find it easier to fully integrate into 'white' society.
    Yeah, no. The people who most strongly view black Americans as being "different" at this point in time are black Americans. The most racist/racially aware/divides people into racial groupings/etc. demographic in America today are black women.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I find there to be a bit of cognitive dissonance among both camps and it's really interesting to me.

    For example, there were folks saying the dude had just stolen cigarettes and was generally being belligerent, hence the shooting was no big deal. Brown supporters rightly said that that was a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean he deserved to get shot.

    Now the same people are saying this rioting and looting is because of the cops, because they put out a GJ finding that incited the population, had cops in divisive-looking riot gear, and released the news at night. Everyone else is rightly saying that this is a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean people should go set **** on fire.

    It's interesting how people go through mental gymnastics to shift the blame from what they think is the "right" side. They could do a case study on just this aspect of the trial alone.
    The truth is the truth, and the facts are the facts. The officers actions were justified, while the actions of Michael Brown, every single person who lied to the police about what took place, and every person involved in that fiasco last night were not.

    Watch the first minute or so of this clip from Megyn Kelly last night, where she shows part of that news conference in Ferguson that many in the media seemed to overlook.


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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The truth is the truth, and the facts are the facts. The officers actions were justified, while the actions of Michael Brown, every single person who lied to the police about what took place, and every person involved in that fiasco last night were not.

    Watch the first minute or so of this clip from Megyn Kelly last night, where she shows part of that news conference in Ferguson that many in the media seemed to overlook.

    ...I'm not really sure what that has to do with what I said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'd rather the national guard be sent in than see the militarization of local police.
    You know. I can agree with that position.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    That is not a point of fact.
    While their has been outside agitators present, what is and has happened is by Ferguson residents.


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    During the outbreak of violence in August, on one day alone, 93% of those arrested were not residents of Ferguson. They had come from all over.
    93% of those arrested Monday were not from Ferguson | FOX2now.com

    Last I heard they arrested 80 some last night. Wonder how many of them live in Ferguson.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    During the outbreak of violence in August, on one day alone, 93% of those arrested were not residents of Ferguson. They had come from all over.
    93% of those arrested Monday were not from Ferguson | FOX2now.com

    Last I heard they arrested 80 some last night. Wonder how many of them live in Ferguson.
    That makes this so much worse. I feel so sad for the business owners. There are out of towners there destroying their property in the name of "justice"?
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