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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    See, this is the problem with people who don't know what Libertarians are for. They assume that when we say "limited government" we mean "no government". When the police are being shot at, which they were, then the Police need to step up to not only protect themselves but others in the crowd.
    I'm sorry, when I see bumper stickers like "MORE GOVERNMENT EQUALS LESS FREEDOM--PERIOD," the only logical conclusion to that is that anarchy is best. As we can see in your comment, so many libertarians want "limited government," except when they don't.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What if the "law and order" is oppressive and brutalizes the people? I don't think turning to violence is the best option, but I wouldn't suggest people submit to law to keep social order either.
    The violence and destruction of the protests tonight is unacceptable but the degree of militarization of the Ferguson police force that I have seen tonight via the live streams is also completely unacceptable.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You ever heard of a jury taking 100+ days to decide whether a black man is guilty?
    It would an interesting stat to see, grand juries, their time to decide white police officers and black police officers. But you know GJs don't determine guilt right?

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    If people riot, people riot. It shouldn't be made into a matter of "black people riot and white people don't," because I have seen mostly white rioters many times. The fact is, rioters riot. It's shouldn't be a racial issue of stereotyping.
    Which rots are you referring to ?

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Well my take on it Black Dog is this was a well planned event by several "community organizers". After all isn't that what Alinsky taught his students is to take any opportunity for any "action" then becomes acceptable if it destroys or undermines the "status quo" and brings “change” ?This is radical anti-stability attacking just another institution (law enforcement) which is so needed in maintaining a free society,
    Most of the people looting etc are not even from Fergison. They are opportunistic thugs. They are not attacking anything... They are doing their black Friday shopping at 100% off.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You ever heard of a jury taking 100+ days to decide whether a black man is guilty?
    Grand juries don't decide guilt, or innocence.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Once again a thug gets away with murder because he carries a badge. I'm tired of jurors letting these murderers walk. The video was clear.
    Hey, you get the award for most irresponsible statement of the night! This is why we have riots and lawlessness, because there are people like you that support it with idiotic statements. Congratulations.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You don't get it. *How* the media chooses to report makes a difference. They should have a social obligation to report in an intelligent, fair, and non-inciting manner. But because of ratings, ratings, ratings, if it bleeds, it leads.
    They've shown the protests in New York, so it's not just about Ferguson. But people need to know what is happening in Ferguson right now, to see the people reacting and have context when these debates happened. Part of that reporting by the way, is that a lot of the instigators are not from Ferguson. There being neutral, but you can't pretend violence isn't happening. If you live in Ferguson, wouldn't you want to know what is going on?

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What if the "law and order" is oppressive and brutalizes the people? I don't think turning to violence is the best option, but I wouldn't suggest people submit to law to keep social order either.
    The case has to be utterly absolute, otherwise you end up with people like this preventing society from operating and threaten the safety of the populace. Everyone's pet cause starts becoming a matter of "the health of justice" and "fairness" and a justifier for extreme measures. Because of the self-righteousness, now we have the endangerment of stability and the safety of the citizenry.

    Does Ferguson in any true sense meet this test? No.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I've seen two of the largest riots in America, the Watts Riot in 1965 and the riots in L.A. in 1992. Why do they always burn down their own neighborhoods and then complain why nobody wants to open a business in their neighborhoods after the looting and arson ?
    Don't ask me. Just stupid people pissed off doing stupid things.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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