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Fascinating night last night. My thoughts:

1. Props to that prosecutor. He was articulate and had to suffer through the painfully idiotic questions from the audience.
2. It sounds like quite a few "witnesses" lied. Eye witnesses lie and can be prejudiced. Evidence can't.
3. The display in Ferguson after the announcement was pure, unadulterated filth.
4. Darren Wilson needs to move himself and his family to another country for his own safety.
5. It sounds like justice was done.

Justice was done, with one exception. The officer now fears for his and his family's safety. That to me is pretty sick.
 
I stayed up pretty late to watch all this unfold and was reminded precisely why I even Obama said "minority communities need more law enforcement than anybody." This was nothing but an evening of lunacy.
 
Justice was done, with one exception. The officer now fears for his and his family's safety. That to me is pretty sick.

I feel awful for the officer and I really feel for his wife and his family. I'm a mother....I can't imagine seeing posts and tweets and shout outs to kill him and people acting like monsters as they did last night all because the evidence wasn't there to bring charges against him.

It's a sick and twisted world we live in that this is going on.
 
I stayed up pretty late to watch all this unfold and was reminded precisely why I even Obama said "minority communities need more law enforcement than anybody." This was nothing but an evening of lunacy.

Rudy giuliani said the same thing once and people called him racist.
 
The Grand Jury was convened and sworn in some time before the shooting even took place. They just sit and wait for something to debate on, and unfortunately for them, they got this case.

It would be interesting to know the vote breakdown but the GJ is one of the most secretive processes in our justice system so we'll never know. Of course, as many times as the Prosecutor said that last night it didn't stop the idiots in the audience from asking him repeatedly. That guy really held himself together. I'm sure he was thinking "You can keep asking me the question 10 times and you'll get the same answer, assclown".

Im not sure about how long ago this particular gj was convened but in federal judicial districts its typically only a week i think.

This gj was unusually lengthy. Ive testified at dozens of gj and the indictment takes a matter of minutes.
 
Im not sure about how long ago this particular gj was convened but in federal judicial districts its typically only a week i think.

This gj was unusually lengthy. Ive testified at dozens of gj and the indictment takes a matter of minutes.

He said it last night in the presser. They were convened and sworn in months before the incident even happened. I think he also said they should have been relieved of their duties in September but stayed on to take this particular case.
 
Every single business should pull out of ferguson. Let it turn to Detroit. There is no justice when mob rule is allowed to take place.
 
All you need to know is on the video. The evidence was clear. The grand juror like many before them simply chose to turn their eyes rather than indict a cop. Sad

It was clear, the cop acted correctly. They would have indicted him if there was the slightest bit of anything to work with. Obviously, there was nothing. This only got the attention that it did because of the race hustlers that run in for personal gain.
 
Wall it off and let the rioters get sorted out purge style.
 
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We're not likely to hear from Officer Wilson until years from now when the federal and civil actions have run their course.
Prior to the verdict their was reports that he had been in several discussions with the press, supposedly over who was going to get his story.


Ferguson cop Darren Wilson holds secret talks with TV hosts including Anderson Cooper and Matt Lauer - as grand jury reconvenes to consider charges

  • At least five national TV journalists have met in private with Wilson to discuss the possibility of carrying out a televised interview with him
  • The five named are NBC's Matt Lauer, ABC's George Stephanopoulos, CBS' Scott Pelley and CNN's Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon
  • Within hours of them being named on CNN's Reliable Sources, both Cooper and Lemon had tweeted to confirm the secret interviews had taken place
  • Cooper denied that there was any conspiracy and said it was standard practice to meet with a subject prior to them agreeing to speak on camera
  • A grand jury continues to deliberate over whether to charge Wilson for shooting Michael Brown in August

Ferguson's Darren Wilson holds talks with Anderson Cooper and Matt Lauer | Daily Mail Online
 
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Prior to the verdict their was reports that he had been in several discussions with the press, supposedly over who was going to get his story.


Ferguson cop Darren Wilson holds secret talks with TV hosts including Anderson Cooper and Matt Lauer - as grand jury reconvenes to consider charges

  • At least five national TV journalists have met in private with Wilson to discuss the possibility of carrying out a televised interview with him
  • The five named are NBC's Matt Lauer, ABC's George Stephanopoulos, CBS' Scott Pelley and CNN's Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon
  • Within hours of them being named on CNN's Reliable Sources, both Cooper and Lemon had tweeted to confirm the secret interviews had taken place
  • Cooper denied that there was any conspiracy and said it was standard practice to meet with a subject prior to them agreeing to speak on camera
  • A grand jury continues to deliberate over whether to charge Wilson for shooting Michael Brown in August

Ferguson's Darren Wilson holds talks with Anderson Cooper and Matt Lauer | Daily Mail Online

Don Lemon? Good grief. That would be a mess. Actually it could be entertaining. Lemon could ask him why he didn't just bite Brown's penis.

On a serious note I really hope Wilson doesn't move forward with this. Nothing good can come from granting the idiotic media an interview.
 
Every single business should pull out of ferguson. Let it turn to Detroit. There is no justice when mob rule is allowed to take place.

As should law enforcement. If the people who live there refuse to oust the worst of their community the police should not have to bear the brunt of it. The message is clear: in a minority community mob rules. Back out of the area and let the population eliminate themselves. It worked so well in Detroit after all. If the populace want anarchy let them have it.
 
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One would think a panel discussion of race in America might include at least one person of a different race.

Why, what the hell do they know. :lol:
 
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Much like the Zimmerman situation, we will never know the truth.
:doh
We already know the truth in each case.


The first story reported in the media was that he was shot with his hands up in surrender.
And most foks could tell that was a lie from the get.


People kept assuming it would turn to violence with the Trayvon Martin ruling, and it didn't... I didn't think it was a sure bet.
Very few actually thought that.

And though they were wrong about riots , individuals have acted out violently and attributed their action as being for Trayvon.





The problem in this case was that there was so many inconsitencies in the story, and he talks about the hands that even there, it wasn't clear exactly where his hands were.

Inconsistencies?

There were lies being told from folks who are just against police.





It was not the civilians who poured the metaphorical gasoline onto this situation.
Yes it was, from the moment Dorian Johnson told the first lie it was civilians metaphorical pouring gasoline onto the fire to fan flames of racial hatred.





In fact most of the folks in Ferguson that caused the real violence from the beginning were not the residents. They were outsiders as in community organizers of groups with a political agenda.
That is not a point of fact.
While their has been outside agitators present, what is and has happened is by Ferguson residents.





Absolutely. The military and the police are separate entities for a reason and the police most definitely should NOT be this:

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Once again a thug gets away with murder because he carries a badge. I'm tired of jurors letting these murderers walk. The video was clear.
The only video that has been clear is the ones of the witnesses lying.
Officer Wilson's shooting was justified.

The evidence was clear. The grand juror like many before them simply chose to turn their eyes rather than indict a cop. Sad
An absurd statement that you can not prove.

Matter of fact, everything you have said about this case is absurd.
 
I find there to be a bit of cognitive dissonance among both camps and it's really interesting to me.

For example, there were folks saying the dude had just stolen cigarettes and was generally being belligerent, hence the shooting was no big deal. Brown supporters rightly said that that was a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean he deserved to get shot.

Now the same people are saying this rioting and looting is because of the cops, because they put out a GJ finding that incited the population, had cops in divisive-looking riot gear, and released the news at night. Everyone else is rightly saying that this is a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean people should go set **** on fire.

It's interesting how people go through mental gymnastics to shift the blame from what they think is the "right" side. They could do a case study on just this aspect of the trial alone.
 
I am so sick of this story. What a bunch of nonsense

As I said before, this is almost nothing to do with the cop or the unfortunate dead victim (almost no one who is freaking out knew either of them).

This is about poverty and America's obsession with 'race'.

"America" is not obsessed with race. Racial agitators in America are obsessed with race.

This verdict is almost nothing but an excuse for people that were angry long before this shooting ever happened, to vent their anger.


My solution to all this (long term)?

Fix the economy by getting the government and the Fed out of the way and let American 'free enterprise' fix the problem long term AND many 'blacks' have to stop self-segregating and fully integrate into 'white' mainstream America...whether they or 'whites' want them to.

If 'blacks' that are poor are incredibly naive enough to think that the government will fix their problems with more welfare and affirmative action programs and the like...forget it.
You have to get out of the slums and do it for yourselves. And not through sports or music (that only will work for a tiny minority), through hard work, imagination and perseverance.

I truly regret that poor 'blacks' find themselves in bad economic situations...but whining about it or rioting won't help your situation. Positive action and a little bravery will.

Stop whining and start doing.

:lol: yeah. Well, if you figure out how to promulgate that message without being called a racist by those who have an incentive to do so, let me know.

And to 'white' America? Stop being so damned racist.

I have travelled to many first world countries and Americans (on average) are by FAR the most racist bunch I have ever come across. The average American just won't shut up about skin color.
Take Canada, they have racism. But I guarantee you it is a HECK of a lot easier for a poor 'black' Canadian to integrate with mainstream Canadain society then it is for a poor 'black' American to do likewise. Not because they have more government 'race' programs (as far as I know, they have none)...but because most Canadians don't judge people NEARLY as much on the color (or colour) of their skin as average Americans do.

utter and complete horse ****. Off the top of my head I've travelled through Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, Korea, England, Italy, Spain, Israel, Greece, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, and probably a few others that slip my mind at 8:20 in the morning. I've lived overseas for years, studied other nations and peoples' professionally for years. America is one of the least-racist places on the planet.

Stop looking at people as 'races' and just look at them as people.

Maybe if most average, 'white' Americans (and the 'white' dominated media) stopped thinking of 'black' Americans as a different 'race' and just looked upon them as Americans, 'blacks' would find it easier to fully integrate into 'white' society.

Yeah, no. The people who most strongly view black Americans as being "different" at this point in time are black Americans. The most racist/racially aware/divides people into racial groupings/etc. demographic in America today are black women.
 
I find there to be a bit of cognitive dissonance among both camps and it's really interesting to me.

For example, there were folks saying the dude had just stolen cigarettes and was generally being belligerent, hence the shooting was no big deal. Brown supporters rightly said that that was a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean he deserved to get shot.

Now the same people are saying this rioting and looting is because of the cops, because they put out a GJ finding that incited the population, had cops in divisive-looking riot gear, and released the news at night. Everyone else is rightly saying that this is a bull**** argument and, even if true, doesn't mean people should go set **** on fire.

It's interesting how people go through mental gymnastics to shift the blame from what they think is the "right" side. They could do a case study on just this aspect of the trial alone.

The truth is the truth, and the facts are the facts. The officers actions were justified, while the actions of Michael Brown, every single person who lied to the police about what took place, and every person involved in that fiasco last night were not.

Watch the first minute or so of this clip from Megyn Kelly last night, where she shows part of that news conference in Ferguson that many in the media seemed to overlook.

 
The truth is the truth, and the facts are the facts. The officers actions were justified, while the actions of Michael Brown, every single person who lied to the police about what took place, and every person involved in that fiasco last night were not.

Watch the first minute or so of this clip from Megyn Kelly last night, where she shows part of that news conference in Ferguson that many in the media seemed to overlook.



...I'm not really sure what that has to do with what I said?
 
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I'd rather the national guard be sent in than see the militarization of local police.

You know. I can agree with that position.
 
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That is not a point of fact.
While their has been outside agitators present, what is and has happened is by Ferguson residents.


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During the outbreak of violence in August, on one day alone, 93% of those arrested were not residents of Ferguson. They had come from all over.
93% of those arrested Monday were not from Ferguson | FOX2now.com

Last I heard they arrested 80 some last night. Wonder how many of them live in Ferguson.
 
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During the outbreak of violence in August, on one day alone, 93% of those arrested were not residents of Ferguson. They had come from all over.
93% of those arrested Monday were not from Ferguson | FOX2now.com

Last I heard they arrested 80 some last night. Wonder how many of them live in Ferguson.

That makes this so much worse. I feel so sad for the business owners. There are out of towners there destroying their property in the name of "justice"?
 
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