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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The case has to be utterly absolute, otherwise you end up with people like this preventing society from operating and threaten the safety of the populace. Everyone's pet cause starts becoming a matter of "the health of justice" and "fairness" and a justifier for extreme measures. Because of the self-righteousness, now we have the endangerment of stability and the safety of the citizenry.

    Does Ferguson in any true sense meet this test? No.
    No, Ferguson doesn't meet that test. I feel that you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. Nearly all protests create social upheaval, do they not? Doing something peaceful such as sit-ins can cause social unrest in the minds of some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    No, Ferguson doesn't meet that test. I feel that you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. Nearly all protests create social upheaval, do they not? Doing something peaceful such as sit-ins can cause social unrest in the minds of some.
    Yes they do, and I am one of those persons that think they can unjustly cause social unrest when they prevent the normal operations of the public. I have qualms with the idea that one's pet social problem becomes justification enough to shut down, say, the operations of a university, the ability for people to get to their homes via the roads, and so forth.

    I have many problems with how people have implemented civil disobediance. I don't have unwavering support of Martin Luther King Jr. or Henry David Thoreau.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    No, Ferguson doesn't meet that test. I feel that you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. Nearly all protests create social upheaval, do they not? Doing something peaceful such as sit-ins can cause social unrest in the minds of some.
    It really depends on what your purpose of doing it is right? I mean, if all you want to do is bring attention and raise awareness for said problem, then creating a little upheaval can be justified. But once the attention is brought and you've said what you needed to say on the issue, then continuing to be disruptive doesn't contribute any further to your cause and thus should be moved on.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    who questioned what was presented, such as asking if this was the face of someone who being truthful when he said he was fearful the next blow to it might be fatal:
    Attachment 67176427
    who questioned why there was no material from wilson under brown's fingernails despite wilson's insistence that brown scratched him
    in short, there was no party asking whether the proffered 'evidence' was the evidence it was presented to be. there was no rebuttal, no questioning of the 'evidence'
    there were witnesses saying brown charged the officer. there were others saying he put his hands in a position of surrender. that alone should have been enough to cause there to be a basis for a trial to ferret out which testimony was truthful. there was enough doubt about that circumstance alone to provoke a finding of probable cause. the testimony of the officer does not reconcile with the facts relative to the distance of the officer from brown at the time of the shooting. was he mistaken or lying. again, a basis for probable cause
    to fail to try the officer to determine the truth of this case is a failure of our justice system
    There you go again. You want us to infer something. Good luck with that.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There you go again. You want us to infer something. Good luck with that.
    i know, right
    why do i even try to get such folks to think about the actual circumstances before coming to a conclusion that has been formed for them
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    The rioters forced a Starbucks to stay open longer so they could buy more lattes.
    It was wild I heard.


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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i know, right
    why do i even try to get such folks to think about the actual circumstances before coming to a conclusion that has been formed for them
    The only one here who had a preformed conclusion seems to have been you. Wilson's testimony was judged credible because his account matched the forensic evidence.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i know, right
    why do i even try to get such folks to think about the actual circumstances before coming to a conclusion that has been formed for them
    You think you know what happened despite the evidence. You dont.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You don't know the guy. I don't see how you can draw that conclusion fairly.

    On the other hand, we do know that Brown was a thug, because of what he did in the store. I'd hazard a guess that this wasn't his first time at doing something like that in a store either.
    I agree that Brown was a thug as well.
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually the standard is that police officers and OTHER civilians may use deadly force if and only if they have a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent an imminent danger of death or severe bodily harm of an innocent or innocents
    Which is what I said.
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