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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....maybe on FauxNews....but I've heard differently from many other legal minds.....but then again you wouldn't understand.
    No you haven't. However:

    Legal scholars praise Ferguson grand jury for fairness beyond the norm - Washington Times

    And you would know far more about what FN is saying than I ever would.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the difference lies in why they are rioting. In Keene it was a party gone out of control, there's no party element in Ferguson right now. However, I'm all for getting every photo of the rioters from Keene, arresting and jailing them, just as I suggest for Ferguson.
    I am in Keene NH right now visiting my wife's family for thanksgiving. The "pumpkin fest" according to my in laws has become a bit of an out of control college party which was widely condemned and worth pointing out that a few hundred Keene state students turned up in the morning to help with the clean up.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I am in Keene NH right now visiting my wife's family for thanksgiving. The "pumpkin fest" according to my in laws has become a bit of an out of control college party which was widely condemned and worth pointing out that a few hundred Keene state students turned up in the morning to help with the clean up.
    That pumkin fiasco was the "white version of ferguson".

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by Hangin' Chad View Post
    Absolutely not. There is definitely systematic privilege on behalf of black people in America today. My children, with equal or better tests scores and grades would be shunned aside in the college admissions process for any mediocre black applicant.
    Only the bottom of the barrel competes with AA. Bottom of the barrel applicants are passed over for more qualified individuals. You fail to quantify the value of addressing unjustly withheld opportunity and diversity.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    From the prosecutor's presentation at the presser, he stated the he laid out all the evidence, regardless of whether it was both pro and con to he officer before the GJ. I'm not getting why you are calling that one-sided. Seems to have been all sides WRT the evidence.
    who questioned what was presented, such as asking if this was the face of someone who being truthful when he said he was fearful the next blow to it might be fatal:
    ferguson cop the day after the shooting getting his face punched twice.jpg
    who questioned why there was no material from wilson under brown's fingernails despite wilson's insistence that brown scratched him
    in short, there was no party asking whether the proffered 'evidence' was the evidence it was presented to be. there was no rebuttal, no questioning of the 'evidence'
    there were witnesses saying brown charged the officer. there were others saying he put his hands in a position of surrender. that alone should have been enough to cause there to be a basis for a trial to ferret out which testimony was truthful. there was enough doubt about that circumstance alone to provoke a finding of probable cause. the testimony of the officer does not reconcile with the facts relative to the distance of the officer from brown at the time of the shooting. was he mistaken or lying. again, a basis for probable cause
    to fail to try the officer to determine the truth of this case is a failure of our justice system
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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    An officer is allowed to use deadly force if they believe that the use of force is necessary to protect themselves or others.
    actually the standard is that police officers and OTHER civilians may use deadly force if and only if they have a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent an imminent danger of death or severe bodily harm of an innocent or innocents



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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    " Optics " doesn't justify the crime of inciting a riot.

    He should been in jail right now or out on bail
    He sure sounds like a low-life SOB, but people can say amazingly outrageous things, even in front of rioters, without breaking the law. Inflammatory (literally, in this case!) speech like his is protected by the First Amendment unless it is both designed to produce imminent lawless action and likely to produce such action. He might claim that by "bitch" and "motherf----r" he was just referring to an unjust legal system, or some other general, abstract thing. And he might note that he never called on anyone to burn anything right then and there, and that what he said was not likely to provoke anyone to burn anything immediately.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Only the bottom of the barrel competes with AA. Bottom of the barrel applicants are passed over for more qualified individuals. You fail to quantify the value of addressing unjustly withheld opportunity and diversity.
    Most everyone competes with AA on some level. Diversity is a crock since we sent a man to the moon with an all-White command center and crew of astronauts. Watch the movie Apollo13 sometime to get a glimpse of the great country we once were. Simply put blacks have more opportunity in this country than anywhere in the world and simply can't compete on a large scale basis without AA which, by definition, takes an opportunity away from a better qualified White. The Chinese and Japanese laugh at us because of AA.

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    That pumkin fiasco was the "white version of ferguson".
    The rioters forced a Starbucks to stay open longer so they could buy more lattes.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Ferguson LIVE announcement video feed links here [W:60, 267]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    who questioned what was presented, such as asking if this was the face of someone who being truthful when he said he was fearful the next blow to it might be fatal:
    ferguson cop the day after the shooting getting his face punched twice.jpg
    who questioned why there was no material from wilson under brown's fingernails despite wilson's insistence that brown scratched him
    in short, there was no party asking whether the proffered 'evidence' was the evidence it was presented to be. there was no rebuttal, no questioning of the 'evidence'
    there were witnesses saying brown charged the officer. there were others saying he put his hands in a position of surrender. that alone should have been enough to cause there to be a basis for a trial to ferret out which testimony was truthful. there was enough doubt about that circumstance alone to provoke a finding of probable cause. the testimony of the officer does not reconcile with the facts relative to the distance of the officer from brown at the time of the shooting. was he mistaken or lying. again, a basis for probable cause
    to fail to try the officer to determine the truth of this case is a failure of our justice system
    OK, so say the GJ returned the judgement that there should be a trial.
    So a trial happens, and the officer doesn't get convicted of a single thing. Why?

    Because of all the conflicting, contradictory, and yes even self-contradictory testimony given by 'witnesses', and the officer's testimony being consistent with the physical evidence.

    After months of tension building the verdict is read, the protestors are upset, and riot and burn buildings down, and fire at the firemen.

    So what's the difference, really?
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