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    Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Ohio lawmakers propose triple Thanksgiving Day pay


    Heard about this on NPR this morning. Not sure where I stand, thought, to be honest, I AM leaning towards actions like this...I'm just disgusted that such action is even needed.

    Basically, more and more retailers are deciding to be open for Thanksgiving, a family holiday. I perceive this as a move by the government to discourage such actions, by increasing the cost. Thing is, if americans were really concerned about making this a family holiday...they wouldn't ****ing SHOP on thanksgiving. Simple solution, right? If no one shops on this day, stores won't feel compelled to open to capture those sales. They are saying that enough major retailers do this, they will pressure the mom and pops to follow suit. Now, I'm no economic genius, but I fail to see how this works? So, Kmart is open on thanksgiving, and this somehow forces a store that, prior to Kmart's position, ACCEPTED no sales on this day. But now that Kmart is making money on this day...all of a sudden the mom and pop will be losing money for not making money on that day? Seems like kinda failed logic, to me...


    But anyway, yeah. It is what it is. I feel that, yeah, making someone work on their holiday should require extra compensation...but honestly, I think this **** shouldn't even be necessary. I think americans need to wake up and accept that if you **** in your bed, you gotta sleep in ****.
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Ohio lawmakers propose triple Thanksgiving Day pay


    Heard about this on NPR this morning. Not sure where I stand, thought, to be honest, I AM leaning towards actions like this...I'm just disgusted that such action is even needed.

    Basically, more and more retailers are deciding to be open for Thanksgiving, a family holiday. I perceive this as a move by the government to discourage such actions, by increasing the cost. Thing is, if americans were really concerned about making this a family holiday...they wouldn't ****ing SHOP on thanksgiving. Simple solution, right? If no one shops on this day, stores won't feel compelled to open to capture those sales. They are saying that enough major retailers do this, they will pressure the mom and pops to follow suit. Now, I'm no economic genius, but I fail to see how this works? So, Kmart is open on thanksgiving, and this somehow forces a store that, prior to Kmart's position, ACCEPTED no sales on this day. But now that Kmart is making money on this day...all of a sudden the mom and pop will be losing money for not making money on that day? Seems like kinda failed logic, to me...


    But anyway, yeah. It is what it is. I feel that, yeah, making someone work on their holiday should require extra compensation...but honestly, I think this **** shouldn't even be necessary. I think americans need to wake up and accept that if you **** in your bed, you gotta sleep in ****.
    I'm all for incentives to work on holidays. When I was young and worked part time in retail, I used to love working on holidays because not only did we get a percentage pay for those days, part of a government statutory holiday mandate, but we also got paid double time for working. It was a great way to make extra money. The full time staff didn't have to work and got paid for the day anyway.

    I'm not sure I favour government forcing triple time - in a capitalistic society, if the business is making enough by being open they will pay sufficiently to get people to work. I'm more inclined to support the employees' right to refuse work on statutory holidays, which we have here.
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Sure because the college athletes who do not even get to go home for the holiday because they are off playing for free in front of tens of thousands of people who are being served refreshments and foam fingers should be made to work--just not the guy who works at Walmart. Mom and pop shops have no incentive to even be open on black friday. People aren't coming there when Walmart has so many good deals.

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Compared to other countries the American worker gets a raw deal. Holiday pay and guaranteed PTO should be par for the course

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    A triple pay law would insure that more stores closed on Thanksgiving, meaning that workers will makenothing. That's way better! LOL!
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm all for incentives to work on holidays. When I was young and worked part time in retail, I used to love working on holidays because not only did we get a percentage pay for those days, part of a government statutory holiday mandate, but we also got paid double time for working. It was a great way to make extra money. The full time staff didn't have to work and got paid for the day anyway.

    I'm not sure I favour government forcing triple time - in a capitalistic society, if the business is making enough by being open they will pay sufficiently to get people to work. I'm more inclined to support the employees' right to refuse work on statutory holidays, which we have here.
    No here. Holidays in retail are called "black out" dates, and cannot be requested off.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Sure because the college athletes who do not even get to go home for the holiday because they are off playing for free in front of tens of thousands of people who are being served refreshments and foam fingers should be made to work--just not the guy who works at Walmart. Mom and pop shops have no incentive to even be open on black friday. People aren't coming there when Walmart has so many good deals.
    80,000 for 4 years is nothing?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Compared to other countries the American worker gets a raw deal. Holiday pay and guaranteed PTO should be par for the course
    Holiday pay and PTO (paid time off?) are the norm, not the exception.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Sure because the college athletes who do not even get to go home for the holiday because they are off playing for free in front of tens of thousands of people who are being served refreshments and foam fingers should be made to work--just not the guy who works at Walmart. Mom and pop shops have no incentive to even be open on black friday. People aren't coming there when Walmart has so many good deals.
    Playing for a free education, you mean?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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