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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    No here. Holidays in retail are called "black out" dates, and cannot be requested off.
    In my view, for full time staff, they should be optional - I would agree for part-timers there's less individual choice. Here, in retail, you don't have to work on Sundays if you don't want to - it was part of the deal to have retail open on Sundays.
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    and a labor party would render the RNC and the DNC moot, which is why the US doesn't have one. Either way, people are free to organize or not organize, and so far they do not seem willing to organize in retail.
    they're discouraged at every step these days. but yeah, eventually, the pressure will be enough that unions will form again. that's the way it usually works. people finally get enough of being treated like **** at work, and then they organize.

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Holiday pay and PTO (paid time off?) are the norm, not the exception.
    BBC - Capital - Life in a no-vacation nation

    Good article you should read.
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    I'm strongly against retailers basically forcing employees to work on Thanksgiving. It's awful that people have to miss a family holiday to work, repugnant that retailers put a few extra bucks ahead of their employee's families, and stunningly shocking that people fall for the "Black Friday" BS.

    That said, I don't know if legislation is the best method to deal with this. Helix may be on to something, maybe unionization will give the employees a better standing to deal with excessive holiday hours.

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    I'm strongly against retailers basically forcing employees to work on Thanksgiving. It's awful that people have to miss a family holiday to work, repugnant that retailers put a few extra bucks ahead of their employee's families, and stunningly shocking that people fall for the "Black Friday" BS.

    That said, I don't know if legislation is the best method to deal with this. Helix may be on to something, maybe unionization will give the employees a better standing to deal with excessive holiday hours.
    What always shocked me when I lived in the US is that stores are open for Thanksgiving, July 4th and Veterans day, America is a very traditional, family and military based nation. Surprised me that the public are not outraged that these companies are making money on these "sacred" American holidays.
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    they're discouraged at every step these days. but yeah, eventually, the pressure will be enough that unions will form again. that's the way it usually works. people finally get enough of being treated like **** at work, and then they organize.
    Keep dreaming. Unions are a thing of the past. It is why workers are relying on the democratic party to try to get them a wage increase--they have realized paying union dues will get them nothing. The only hope for workers (and manufacturing) is a real labor party that largely ignores being swept up into other issues in the left-right axis (or Labour Party if you want to be pretentious and use the British spelling).

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    What always shocked me when I lived in the US is that stores are open for Thanksgiving, July 4th and Veterans day, America is a very traditional, family and military based nation. Surprised me that the public are not outraged that these companies are making money on these "sacred" American holidays.
    I guess they can buy even that with low low prices

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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Why are they open anyway? Don't you have all your sales on the Friday after?
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

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    BBC - Capital - Life in a no-vacation nation

    Good article you should read.
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    Re: Increased Pay for working Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    and a labor party would render the RNC and the DNC moot, which is why the US doesn't have one. Either way, people are free to organize or not organize, and so far they do not seem willing to organize in retail.
    if you so much as whisper the word "union" in a retail setting you can lose your job

    not to mention stuff like this is made all the time

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