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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Sucks to need to do an oil change in Ferguson today.
    Yep, we will soon be hearing from 'community organizers' in Ferguson complaining about the lack of shopping opportunities in their fair cities because 'racist' retail outlets refuse to rebuild or open in the area. Obama's sons really didn't heed his advice last night. Our first 'post-racial President' has really brought the country together with hope and change.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Hangin' Chad View Post
    Yep, we will soon be hearing from 'community organizers' in Ferguson complaining about the lack of shopping opportunities in their fair cities because 'racist' retail outlets refuse to rebuild or open in the area. Obama's sons really didn't heed his advice last night. Our first 'post-racial President' has really brought the country together with hope and change.
    I was rolling laughing watching the split screen of Obama and the fires. Perfect.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So the eye witnesses that testified and the officers testimony means nothing to you.
    Again, you are presupposing my comments, not a good way to argue.

    Focus on my point, did the officer have an orbital blowout? No. Was that terrible reporting? Yes. That was my point, you can "what about..." all you want, but it is not germane to my point, is it?
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Again, you are presupposing my comments, not a good way to argue.

    Focus on my point, did the officer have an orbital blowout? No. Was that terrible reporting? Yes. That was my point, you can "what about..." all you want, but it is not germane to my point, is it?
    I agree, most breaking news reports are bad.
    That is why I state any news story needs to be verified. I for one do not take on the scene breaking news as being 100% correct.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Hangin' Chad View Post
    Yep, we will soon be hearing from 'community organizers' in Ferguson complaining about the lack of shopping opportunities in their fair cities because 'racist' retail outlets refuse to rebuild or open in the area. Obama's sons really didn't heed his advice last night. Our first 'post-racial President' has really brought the country together with hope and change.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Focus on my point, did the officer have an orbital blowout? No. Was that terrible reporting? Yes. That was my point, you can "what about..." all you want, but it is not germane to my point, is it?
    You are speaking about nice debate tactics? That is odd.
    Yet here you are focusing on something that was dropped almost as immediately as it was suggested, and as such is irrelevant.
    Not only is it irrelevant in that regard but it is irrelevant to what the Grand Jury considered.

    But what wasn't irrelevant to the Grand Jury was that fact that the Brown supporting witnesses lied.
    So how about you actual focus on something relevant?
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Again, you are presupposing my comments, not a good way to argue.

    Focus on my point, did the officer have an orbital blowout? No. Was that terrible reporting? Yes. That was my point, you can "what about..." all you want, but it is not germane to my point, is it?
    So you just cant answer the question, you have to take a swipe. Great debate technique.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are speaking about nice debate tactics? That is odd.
    Yet here you are focusing on something that was dropped almost as immediately as it was suggested, and as such is irrelevant.
    Not only is it irrelevant in that regard but it is irrelevant to what the Grand Jury considered.

    But what wasn't irrelevant to the Grand Jury was that fact that the Brown supporting witnesses lied.
    So how about you actual focus on something relevant?
    Unless Officer Wilson testified that he had an orbital fracture, the issue of the orbital fracture is completely irrelevant. Something tells me that the posts of a conservative blogger weren't brought into testimony and the decision making process, unless someone can prove otherwise.

    The blogger who claimed the orbital fracture was wrong, but then again, it turns out that all of the internet posters who claimed that Wilson was a "murderer" because he "shot Brown in the back" were wrong too.

    Your Aristotle quote in your sig line is a great reminder to everyone about how this all played out, and why justice was ultimately served.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    The press didn't report "facts." The press reported what witnesses were saying. Witnesses were saying a lot of different, contradictory things.

    The press was doing its job. Which is to report what people were saying. If you interpreted that as being "facts," that is your problem, if you don't understand the difference between reporting a fact and reporting what a witness is saying.

    That's why the GJ is so important. All the witnesses were presented in person, so they could be questioned, and their statements taken under oath. There were 60 witnesses. A lot of contradiction. Some witnesses, it turned out, didn't really see the incident, and some saw only part of it. The GJ waded through all the testimony, as well as the forensic evidence, and videotapes.

    What the GJ heard and saw....that's evidence. What the press reports is what people SAY to them. Not evidence.
    AND YET you know damn well that when the press reported the people took the side they wanted as gospel and stuck to it. Check the protests going on right now for proof.
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