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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You obviously did not read the testimony of the real witnesses. The real witnesses are those who were actually there and/or not proven to be lying.
    Yeah sure😃

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again, you have not read the evidence or the testimony, it's obvious. NOW you get it right, six shots total. Four in the body, non-fatal zones and two in the head. Before you were spouting all sorts of nonsense about the number of shots, we had to lead you to accuracy complaining all the way.
    Um, six shots hit him. There were others fired.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, please educate yourself first. You can only cross examine the testifying expert as to the accuracy and efficacy of the methods for collection, compilation and purpose of the physical evidence.
    Perhaps you should educate yourself. The interpretation of the evidence may also vary among experts.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The evidence the grand jury was presented with has been linked to multiple times. Your demonstrated failure to read and understand it is entirely on you.
    THAT is not absolute evidence.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    As if we haven't played this game long enough to not predict each other's responses with some relative degree of success? lol. I predicted you wouldn't address the stats I posted too.

    But I am curious.

    1)Why is it the black middle class grew?

    2) What is it about slavery that has "held blacks" back for 149 years?

    And just remember what I said above. I know the end result of asking direct questions. I'm expecting no surprises.
    1- the American middle class grew from a period of time. Now it is shrinking. The black middle class is part of that.

    2- the condition of African Americans compared to whites has been long and fully documented. I would refer you to either book which pretty much uses much of the same data

    AMERICA IN BLACK AND WHITE by Stephan & Abagail Thernstrom
    that gives you a liberal slant

    THE END OF RACISM by Dinesh D'Souza
    which gives you a conservative slant

    but both present much the same data documenting beyond any argument or dispute the effects of slavery and Jim Crow on living African Americans today.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Perhaps you are not aware, but it was only something like 2% of the population at a peak that owned slaves.
    Do you have verifiable evidence for this claim?

    The numbers I have seen are these - and these come from Yahoo Answers using the 1860 US Census figures and other sources who all seem to agree on the numbers


    Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population).

    Total number of slaves in the Upper South: 1,208758 (29% of total population).

    Total number of slaves in the Border States: 432,586 (13% of total population).

    Almost one-third of all Southern families owned slaves. In Mississippi and South Carolina it approached one half. The total number of slave owners was 385,000 (including, in Louisiana, some free Negroes). As for the number of slaves owned by each master, 88% held fewer than twenty, and nearly 50% held fewer than five. (A complete table on slave-owning percentages is given at the bottom of this page.)

    For comparison's sake, let it be noted that in the 1950's, only 2% of American families owned corporation stocks equal in value to the 1860 value of a single slave. Thus, slave ownership was much more widespread in the South than corporate investment was in 1950's America.

    On a typical plantation (more than 20 slaves) the capital value of the slaves was greater than the capital value of the land and implements.
    This article confirms that information from the census

    http://civilwarcauses.org/stat.htm

    as does this one

    http://www.civil-war.net/census.asp?census=Total



    So where does this 2% claim come in?
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That was haymarket's argument, not hers.
    False. They were discussing the rioters and not the residents of Ferguson in general. She mistook context not only as the residents of Furguson but as all black people. The dropping of context was hers.

    It's reasonable to presume the parents of rioters (and rioters) have low IQs.

    That you and she would like to twist things is merely a projection of racism.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Is anyone really surprised at this decision. It's only a black guy that was killed. It would be a totally different matter if it were NYC and a black cop killed a white Wall Street executive.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Is anyone really surprised at this decision. It's only a black guy that was killed. It would be a totally different matter if it were NYC and a black cop killed a white Wall Street executive.
    You are right, in the exact same circumstances but a white being killed.. The cop would still get off, there wouldn't be protest or, riots and far fewer would even know of it.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You are right, in the exact same circumstances but a white being killed.. The cop would still get off, there wouldn't be protest or, riots and far fewer would even know of it.
    That's not what I said, so your "you are right" is flawed.

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